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Old 10-27-2008, 03:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Fedor>Silva>GSP>Penn

If Penn beats GSP they switch spots, and if GSP beats Penn I'd probably put him ahead of Silva.
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Well, I would think that anyone who is considered the "Best Pound for Pound" should be good enough to beat anyone 25 pounds heavier than them, ignoring water weight cutting.

Following this logic, GSP should be able to beat Silva, in order to be the best. By the same rule, Silva should be able to beat Fedor, as their walking weight is also within 25 pounds of eachother. If there was a 215 weight class, Fedor could probably make that.

And as for noone talking about Silva being able to beat Fedor, it happens quite often on this forum.

But this is all speculation of course. The best part is, they are all very exciting to watch!

For me, I consider Silva > BJ > GSP
I'd be willing to be that Fedor could make 205. He is still a bit chubby for a heavyweight.

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Fedor>Silva>GSP>Penn

If Penn beats GSP they switch spots, and if GSP beats Penn I'd probably put him ahead of Silva.
This is a fair assumption up until this point in time.
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think it's Fedor/Silva/GSP/Penn. People complain about Fedor fighting top competition, but he leveled Sylvia and will most likely do the same to Arlovski. I think that Barnett is the obvious follow up, so that argument should be null and void. I think that Silva is obviously the next candidate, and that he should make a serious run at the 205 title. That would be legendary if he could hold both before retiring.
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Old 10-27-2008, 04:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I dont see how anyone can make a case that GSP is better Pound for Pound then Anderson. You have GSP loosing to Matt Hughes, you have him loosing to SERRA!! and he did not finish Fitch. Now Fitch is definitly tough competition but if you look at Andersons run in the UFC it blows GSP out of the water.

I love GSP but i just dont see him topping Anderson at this point.
Silva lost to Daiju. DAIJU! Not only did he lose, he got dominated!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X92DEMYUaGw

And he didn't even finish guys like Otsuka or Horn. At least GSP has come back and destroyed Serra. Silva never did that against Takase, so the argument could be made ....
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Old 10-27-2008, 04:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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That was only Anderson's 2nd legit loss...and it was very early in his career. Hardly a determinant based on his performances the last few years.
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That was only Anderson's 2nd legit loss...and it was very early in his career. Hardly a determinant based on his performances the last few years.
I know. The same could be argued for GSP though, he's come back and badly dominated both the guys he lost to. Clearly it wasn't a matter of skill, just lack of focus on GSP's part.
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Old 10-27-2008, 04:15 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Silva lost to Daiju. DAIJU! Not only did he lose, he got dominated!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X92DEMYUaGw

And he didn't even finish guys like Otsuka or Horn. At least GSP has come back and destroyed Serra. Silva never did that against Takase, so the argument could be made ....
Silva's last real loss was a little less than 4 years ago. He is a much better fighter since then, having earned his Black Belt in BJJ. Also, since getting the Black Belt, he has not been beaten. (yes, i'm discounting the loss to Okami because he didn't get beaten, he simply made a mistake in rules).

If you want to talk about domination, don't forget Serra vs. GSP 1, and that happened only a year and half ago.
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GSP vs Silva will determine who is P4P #1 (or eventually #2 after Fedor) and GSP vs. Penn for #3.
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Old 10-27-2008, 04:46 PM   #20 (permalink)
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[quote=Davisty69;694364]Silva's last real loss was a little less than 4 years ago. He is a much better fighter since then, having earned his Black Belt in BJJ. Also, since getting the Black Belt, he has not been beaten. (yes, i'm discounting the loss to Okami because he didn't get beaten, he simply made a mistake in rules).

If you want to talk about domination, don't forget Serra vs. GSP 1, and that happened only a year and half ago.[/QUOTE]

This is a good point but that is why I am so impressed with GSP the amount of growth in 1.5 years is absolutely astonishing. If you look at the Hughes fight for the title and then the loss to Serra and then look at the fights following that it is absolutely insane how much GSP has improved. He made Hughes look absolutely terrible, like a can, in their rubber match follows it up by annihilating Serra in which it doesnt look like he even got touched in the fight and gave a 5 round spanking to Fitch who looked like he got hit by a car after the fight and GSP didnt even look like he was in a fight.

I would still put Silva ahead of GSP P4P, but Silva would have almost no chance against Fedor strictly due to their size and power difference which doesnt mean I think Fedor is number 1 P4P but an argument could be made for him.

One thing to remember is Silva is 31, GSP is 6 years younger and the progression GSP has made if it continues could mean GSP is the greatest fighter ever when his career is over.
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