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Old 10-30-2008, 11:05 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't think Randy's cardio will be better than Brock's. If anything, the pace Lesnar sets should be too much for Couture.
Well, its definetly debatable, and im only giving Couture the slight edge in the cardio department because we havent seen enough of Lesnar.
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Old 10-30-2008, 11:54 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Why are people so sure that if Randy gets Brock down that Brocks getting straight back up??

I'm not sure either way but we haven't seen anything that indicates Randy can't keep Lesnar down.

It seems a lot of people are over-estimating Brocks wrestling aswell. All he did was control Herring for 3 rounds who's wrsetling is awful. Brocks shot didn't look very good at all in that fight IMO.

What I was impressed with was his ability to pin Heath down and maintain dominant positions (albeit he wasn't doing much from them).

I see the first couple of rounds being fought mainly against the fence with Randy leaning on Brock and basically tiring him out by constantly attempting leg trips/takedowns with maybe Brock taking Randy down once or twice.

In the third I see Brock starting to gas slightly and Randy getting top position from where I see him pounding on Brock from half guard or against the fence and TBH I think thats where Brock quits.

Randy TKO end of the 3rd
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think Randy can take Brock down with a trip or sweep, I think he can pass his guard; at least to the half guard where Randy likes to stay. I think if Brock gets mounted, it's game over. I also think if Brock takes Randy down, that Randy can scramble well enough to get out from under him.

Anyway I look at this fight, I see Randy taking it. But I'll say Randy by GNP, round 1.
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:18 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Or the Randy Couture who got run over by a younger, bigger, stronger, roided up wrestler by the name of Josh Barnett?
Fixed that for ya

Also, IMHO Barnett's grappling was (and is) a lot more well-rounded than Lesnar's. Barnett is excellent with subs, both offensively and defensively. Lesnar's major strength right now still seems to be top control, he doesn't seem to have any sub finishes and his defense is still questionable. We also have never seen him on his back. And of course we don't know about his chin, or whether he will fare well in an extended boxing situation. A lot of question marks with Lesnar still.
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:58 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I agree. Comparing Sylvia to Lesnar is not even fair. Sylvia may have superior MMA skills but he is also an athletic joke. Lesnar is a freak of nature with some basic skills.
There we finally have a good Lesnar/Sylvia comparison. Thay are quite the opposite of each other, with the exeption of weight (Sylvia should def. be more highly ranked than Lesnar though)

Personally, I could se both win and I'd love to see both lose. Preferably Brock, though.

But logically, I'm lost. I don't know who I'd think is going to win but let's say Randy because I'm a firm believer in technique over strength (plus IMO Carwin is better than Lesnar and if Couture can handle Carwin, then he should be able to match Lesnar). But it could go either way. I'm not calling this one. Should be an awesome figght though.
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Old 10-30-2008, 01:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Im not sayin Brocks chin is great cuz idk for sure but when I was a kid there was this WWE stunt that got messed up and he landed strait on his head from the top turnbuckle and still managed to finish the match (with a concussion)
i have seen kane take 3 tombstones from the undertaker and still be able to walk out of the building.
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i have seen kane take 3 tombstones from the undertaker and still be able to walk out of the building.
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If Randy uses his boxing well enough, he should be able to set up the take down. I bet Lesnar won't be training on his back that much or at least not enough to prepare for what Randy can bring to the table. Why anyone thinks Brock will be able to stand up with ease I have no idea, what evidence do you have to base this off of. And if he does try to, he is going to open himself up for some big shots.
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Old 10-30-2008, 02:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I have no idea how Randy will piece together a game plan for such a large, athletic opponent but I do think Brock is open to leg kicks (if you can circle and move after each kick) his upper body is so out of proportion and while he’s extremely mobile for a big man he’ won’t know how to check leg kicks.

If Randy can do some damage with leg kicks (something like Forrest vs. Rampage) he’ll take away some of Brocks most dangerous weapons (quickness, ability to shoot in).
I’m curious to see what Brock can do on his back, I’m guessing not much, his BJJ isn’t very evolved yet.

Either way Randy has his work cut out.
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