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post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-07-2008, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ZZtigerZZ81 View Post
Nothing, but Sherk has shown nothing either. Even still not really sure why this is a topic about who is better on the ground. Kenflo said JoeDaddy has better sub skills. That is all. And I don't disagree with that. In fact, that is all Joe Daddy really has at all. I think you just misread what Kenny was saying.
He’s probably not as fast, but is definitely better on the ground than Sherk

to me "ground fighting" isn't only about submission ability...but rather that combined w/ submission defense, control, do i think joe daddy is a better submission fighter than sherk? he a better ground fighter, no.
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If you couple that sentence with the one before it and the one after it really appears that he is just referneceing his sub ability.

We agree on the abilities of Stevenson adn Sherk...better overall ground fighter (sherk by far), better submissions (Stevenson by a little).

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post #13 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-08-2008, 12:57 AM
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Kenny Florian is a more calculated fighter. I think he's a bad match-up for Joe, simply because we've seen what happens when someone shows Joe his own blood:

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I've been told there's fighters that bleed worse than Joe, but that guy's a bleeder extraordinaire IMO.

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Originally Posted by Chileandude View Post
As long as KenFlo watches out for that Guijoetine he should be fine, i can't wait for this fight im pulling for Florian but i like both guys.

so let it be a war.
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From what I have seen of Joe, he only knows how to do a guillotine choke on one side of his body. So all Kenny has to do is keep his head on the other side when in Joe's guard. :P

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Originally Posted by leviticus View Post
I like kenflo's perspective. he seems very respectful of Joe's skills, yet is confident of his own game. I think he has a better chance staying on his feet and using solid movement to out strike Joe. However, I think if he gets taken down he can still do well.
Yeah, I agree. It's definitely a pleasant relief from all that trash talk everyone seems to be getting on these days. I don't think KenFlo will take it, but he'll put up a decent fight most likely.
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post #18 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-09-2008, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaronyman View Post
joe daddy is not better than sherk on the ground IMO
How can we tell? sherk doesnt even try to go to the ground anymore, he uses his striking instead. If he had longer arms he would do pretty good if is arms were like a foot longer.
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post #19 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-09-2008, 12:39 PM
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I hope Florian wins just because I would like to see him get a title shot since Stevenson just recently fought BJ
BJ has said he couldn't be bothered fighting a guy like Florian.
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I hope that Joe Stevenson sends Kenny Florian back to hosting Star Wars Conventions.....
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