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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 11-09-2008, 11:32 AM Thread Starter
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Will Brock Lesnar's Background Help him When his Back is Against the Cage?

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Will Brock Lesnar's Background Help him When his Back is Against the Cage?

by Michael Rome on Nov 9, 2008 8:15 AM EST in News

People expecting Randy to try to win this fight via submission or KO are expecting a strategy he is not going to employ. He could end up winning there in a scramble, but he's going to try to win this fight the way he always wins--by closing the distance and slowly sucking the life out of Brock Lesnar up against the fence.
Most analysis of this fight so far really ignores where Randy will try to win the wrestling game, and it is a major consideration. None of Brock's amateur training prepares him for a situation where he's up against the fence and has to guess if elbows are coming or a sweep is coming.

Most of Randy's takedowns off the fence actually use the fence as an ally. He pushes guys against it and then sweeps when they are off balance. Brock Lesnar's size really can't overwhelm that kind of takedown, he has to be ready to defend those kinds of trips. I have no doubt he has trained for it, but two months of training with his back against the fence just may not be enough.

I thought he looked pretty uncomfortable against Herring when his back was up against the fence. Early on he just held a headlock while he tried to figure things out, which he just can't do against Randy Couture. The fact that it wasn't instinctual to him what he should do in that situation is really where the inexperience factors in.

Brock is an incredible wrestler, but if he takes a round worth of dirty boxing, knees, and elbows up against the fence, I expect Randy won't have too hard of a time putting him on his back once he has to worry about those other things.


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Thought this was an interesting angle for this fight. Will Randy be able to push Lesnar up against the fence and hold him there to do this though?

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I Sure Brock Knows How To Defend Himself Against The Cage By Now Brock Has Studied Randy Alot Yeah He May Have Got Confused In The Herring Match But I'm 100% Sure Brock Won't Make That Mistake Again!
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I think this is something a lot of people are ignoring and it is one of the reasons we will see Brock on his back in this fight.

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I think BloodyElbow is kind of going out on a limb here. Randy for sure has awesome dirty boxing in the clinch and along the cage, but I think it's more than a little bit of a stretch to think that Randy could keep him there if Lesnar wanted to be somewhere else. And saying Randy doesn't win fights with the stand up, I mean come on, he beat the only other fighter he ever faced as big as Brock that way when he outboxed Sylvia for 5 rounds. I think Brocks background will help him when his back is against the cage, he might not have wrestled in that environment in the NCAA but he's no stranger to performing in weird places or even a cage.
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I think this article hits on something everyone is overlooking. I really don't know if Brock can take Randy down. I haven't seen one takedown from him in MMA like I've seen from Koscheck that just made me say damn he's a great wrestler.

Brock has takendown 3 guys all who's takedown defense is horrible. I don't see him getting Randy down and this article raise a good point about if Randy can get Brock down.
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Yeah im sure the ncaa division 1 national champion is not a good wrestler OK.
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