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Old 11-11-2008, 07:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Can BJ beat GSP?

Now that the UFC has officially announced BJ vs GSP II marked for January 31st I want to talk about what's likely to happen in the fight. Can BJ's new approach to MMA be enough to defeat GSP, who has looked practically unstoppable in his last two fights? Or will BJ, a very capable jabber and take-down defense artist be able to nullify GSP's game plan? I could see this fight going either way. Both have very punishing styles now.
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To answer your question simply, yes BJ can beat GSP. BJ has arguably the best ground game from his back in MMA, probably one of the hardest to deal with guards, great TDD due to him being able to balance on almost nothing, very good stand up, and a finally improving gas tank.

The question now comes is GSP better in all aspects or in just one or two? Stand up is actually hard to call, GSP seems to have a better arsenal but BJ has a rock solid chin and strong hands. On the ground GSP does not seem to like to be on his back at all so probably the best thing BJ could do is try to end up on top somehow, but most likely it will be BJ on his back and GSP in his rubber guard that can quickly turn into 4 subs.

I think either one can win, I still haven't made my choice on whom I am betting on though.
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absolutely he can beat him...he's got mad skills and like anderson silva, is dangerous standing and on the ground....he's also got amazing tdd that anderson doesn't have....

the problem with penn is that he needs to initiate ground battles more...seems like he is rarely the guy shooting in for a td....i'd like to see him either pulling guard more or going for td's.....however, he won't be taking gsp down...so he'll either neither to beat him from his back or standing....and he's very capable of both

i hope he wins, so Alves can KO him for the belt
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Old 11-11-2008, 08:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This is a match Dana made that I am so happy about. On the ground, BJ definitely has better BJJ but GSP's ability to over power, switch positions seemingly at will and GNP seems to be more than Penn can handle. I think GSP will win this, but I am definitely not counting out BJ.
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I doubt BJ will be able to use the Jab the way he did against sherk, Cos he wont have the reach advantage. I think Gsp might take it on the feet, if i were him thats were i would look to wear BJ down, keeping him standing and realy test that new improved cardio. On the ground is BJ's world, but then again, we might get to see how good GSP's BJJ has really become.
Tough to call this but think i going with GSP if jackson gets his game plan right.
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GSP beat BJ half blind when he wasn't nearly the fighter he is now.

Sure BJ's got a chance. it's just so small it's not worth mentioning.
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GSP beat BJ half blind when he wasn't nearly the fighter he is now.

Sure BJ's got a chance. it's just so small it's not worth mentioning.
That's a ridiculous statement. You act like GSP is the only fighter out of the two that have improved as fighters. BJ has grown leaps and bounds just like GSP does.
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That's a ridiculous statement. You act like GSP is the only fighter out of the two that have improved as fighters. BJ has grown leaps and bounds just like GSP does.
maybe in his cardio. and it's still not proven that he has any kind of cardio at 170. He could come out and gas in the 3rd for all we know. He'll be carrying a lot of extra weight.

as far as his technique goes I don't see much of a difference at all....
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Can he beat GSP? Yes.

Standing B.J can definitely beat GSP. He was beating GSP standing in the first fight and I don't see it being any different this time around. GSP has a lot of tools standing, but not enough to handle B.J.

If GSP ends up taking Penn down, I don't see Penn putting GSP in a submission. B.J isn't known for subbing people off his back, just great control. He can definitely work his way back to standing/reverse his position, though. I also don't see GSP doing any real damage on top of B.J. If B.J takes GSP down(wouldn't put money on it), he will be able to control/sub GSP.

The only thing we don't know is how good B.J's cardio is at WW now. If B.J has good cardio at WW and can last, I see B.J being able to sub/strike GSP down for either a finish or decision. If he gets tired, GSP will take Penn down much like the first and hold him with being active enough so the ref does not stand them. I believe cardio, much like all of Penn's fights, is going to be be the deciding facor in this fight.

So.. I actually see B.J having more ways to beat GSP than GSP has to beat B.J.

At the end of the day, you're dealing with two of the best pound for pound fighters in the world, both having tools to beat the other. It is going to be an amazing fight.
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the problem is gsp has one prenowned weakness....striking defense....his head movement is very bad and he gets reckless when he gets in tight....there were numerous occasions in the fitch fight where he looked very uncomposed during tight exchanges with fitch....i don't have a .gif of it...but it's something like this...



i realize this was from a while ago, but i think bj can outstrike gsp...if gsp gets stupid and lets bj get into range...but if gsp can stay on the outside and throw his flashy leg kicks, he could outpoint bj
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