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Old 11-16-2008, 02:07 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I know it wouldn have changed anything (taking the point) Fedor>All but I feel when somebody does it that deliberatly something has to be done to try and deter them from doing it again and right now I believe thats all the ref can do, think the ref should have the power to put them in position on the ground but right now I dont think they can do it. And personally I think it has a lot to do with class although admittidly a classless winner gets the title shot before a classy loser but I cant wait for BJ to destroy KenFlo

Besides since Stevenson never got on top of Kenny like he clearly would have we dont know if he could have finshed Kenny, if the fight had went back and forth longer it wouldnt be as much of a deal.
Eh, I disagree. Tonnes of guys have grabbed the cage, I don't think it has much to do with class, really. He shouldn't have grabbed the fence, but the fight is what it was. Kenny dominated the stand-up, and beat Joe in the scrambles.
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Old 11-16-2008, 02:07 AM   #12 (permalink)
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No, I would bet most people don't feel the same. It's natural reaction to grab something when you're fixin to get slammed. Has nothing to do with CLASS. Did you not see the other fight(can't remember which) where the guy grabbed the fence about 7 times? Why not bitch about that one instead of this petty crap?
maybe cause he doesn't care about that fight?...
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Eh, I disagree. Tonnes of guys have grabbed the cage, I don't think it has much to do with class, really. He shouldn't have grabbed the fence, but the fight is what it was. Kenny dominated the stand-up, and beat Joe in the scrambles.
I see people grab the cage all time but usually its a split second thing and they let go right away and it appears more instinct than stategy, ussually fighters at this level (contenders) arent so blatant I mean he didnt just grab it he grabbed and held on for dear life, Personally I expected Kenny to dominat the standup forcing Joe to take Kenny down something I figured he could do, it kinda went how I figured it would up until the fence grab, I may be a tad bitter since I really dont care for Florian.
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Old 11-16-2008, 02:15 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Even if he had the point deduction, that wouldn't have changed anything. He still scrambled and finished Joe in the first.

lol, you guys must not have seen Sherk/Florian, because this is nothing new for Kenny, and it has nothing to do with class.

How can you say it has nothing to do with class?... Kenflo is like the "good boy" of MMA... Has always been at first thought of as an underdog in every fight he fought pre-Sherk bout, doesn't have that bad guy look with the tatoos & all, & never talks trash along with a shi!tty personality... He's even a Anchor on ESPN representing a true professional MMA fighter. Of course he's a classy guy when it comes to MMA. But for him to grab the fence?.. cmon... like I said Im a fan of his too but I still will always question what would've happened if JoeDaddy would've got that highlight reel slam that couldve hurt Kenflo....
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Old 11-16-2008, 02:16 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I think a warning was exactly what the incident has always warranted so I don't see a problem. Second time a point deduction, sure, but not the first.
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Bull a warning is for when it isnt intentional when you clearly break the rules with intent there should be no warning Kenny has been around a long time he knows the rules but knowing and respecting are two diffrent things.
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Old 11-16-2008, 03:00 AM   #17 (permalink)
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maybe cause he doesn't care about that fight?...
If you can't see the point I was trying to make in the part YOU highlighted then explaining it to you is a lost cause.
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Old 11-16-2008, 03:14 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I think I saw him grab the fence, actually.


All kidding aside, I think Kenny was taking this fight with or without the fence grab.
Heh... are you sure, I think the kenflo fans will say that the fence reached out and tangled itself into kenflo's fingers... ken was trying to shake the fence off, but it just kept coming
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Eh, I disagree. Tonnes of guys have grabbed the cage, I don't think it has much to do with class, really. He shouldn't have grabbed the fence, but the fight is what it was. Kenny dominated the stand-up, and beat Joe in the scrambles.
Yeah, I hate to admit it... as a Joe fanboy... but that was exactly the case.
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Old 11-16-2008, 03:24 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I know it wouldn have changed anything (taking the point) Fedor>All but I feel when somebody does it that deliberatly something has to be done to try and deter them from doing it again and right now I believe thats all the ref can do, think the ref should have the power to put them in position on the ground but right now I dont think they can do it. And personally I think it has a lot to do with class although admittidly a classless winner gets the title shot before a classy loser but I cant wait for BJ to destroy KenFlo

Besides since Stevenson never got on top of Kenny like he clearly would have we dont know if he could have finshed Kenny, if the fight had went back and forth longer it wouldnt be as much of a deal.
the very man in your signature was grabbing the fence as well. i didn't actually notice the grab as i was forced to watch without sound. either way, kenny would have scrambled back to feet just like he did when stevenson managed to floor him.
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