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Old 11-16-2008, 05:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i don't see any exchanges. he got taken down then pounded out.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Not even an Olympic Gold medal winning boxer could turn pro and gain a world title shot after few fights because they know it would make a mockery of their ranking process, Lesnar's title shot was based on him being a big money vessel for the UFC, I'd like to see Lenar fight Cheick Congo who is of a similar size.
Your a lesnar hater, right? Then you do not want to see what he'd do to kongo.Big strong wrestlers eat guys like kongo for breakfast
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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that has gotten a title shot in the history of sports?


name one team that has been 2-1 that has made it to the semi finals....

everybody is screaming "stop hatin on Lesnar"....but the point is Dana White did this as a marketing strategy. A corny marketing strategy might I add.

You can say "whats done is done"....but somebody needs to appeal this, seriously
I'm curious, why is it a "Corny" marketing strategy... you have guy that sells tickets like crazy even after a loss, and now he is your HeavyWeight Champion... No matter who challenges Brock from this point on it's going to be an interesting fight that will sell big.

Like it or not a fight with Brock and let's say Junior Dos Santos(strong up and comer), will probably sell better than Mir/Dos Santos, or Nog/Dos Santos (I know that wouldn't happen), or even Cotoure/Dos Santos.

Dana has to treat the UFC as a business not a showcase to those who have "paid there dues" and whether or not you always agree with it, if he didn't treat it that way... you wouldn't be at home watching, thus affording you the chance to bitch about it.
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i don't see any exchanges. he got taken down then pounded out.
it was a sarcasm
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lol i dont hate brock dat much
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Go back and watch the countdown again. Randy Couture himself got his first HW title fight in only his 4th MMA bout. Randy was 3-0 and Brock was 2-1, but with fights against Mir and Herring I'd argue that Brock faced much tougher, more experienced opponents.

Who else was there to get the shot? Arlovski and Sylvia are gone. Mir and Nog were already signed to fight each other. Herring lost to Brock. Kongo lost to Herring. Velasquez IMO is just as green as Brock. Hardonk? Eddie Sanchez? Ha! The only guy who had a legit claim to this shot over Lesnar was Werdum (having beaten Vera and GG) but we all saw how great he looked in his last fight.

If you think someone else deserved that title shot more: name them. The simple fact is that Brock's quick rise has nothing to do with marketing or gimmicks; it has everything to do with how SHALLOW the HW division as a whole is right now. That's not Brock's fault. Don't hate the player; Hate the game.
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:32 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Go back and watch the countdown again. Randy Couture himself got his first HW title fight in only his 4th MMA bout. Randy was 3-0 and Brock was 2-1, but with fights against Mir and Herring I'd argue that Brock faced much tougher, more experienced opponents.
That's true in a sense, but the HW division was 10x thinner back then than now.

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Who else was there to get the shot? Arlovski and Sylvia are gone. Mir and Nog were already signed to fight each other. Herring lost to Brock. Kongo lost to Herring. Velasquez IMO is just as green as Brock. Hardonk? Eddie Sanchez? Ha! The only guy who had a legit claim to this shot over Lesnar was Werdum (having beaten Vera and GG) but we all saw how great he looked in his last fight.
I think the UFC realized after the Mir/Lesnar fight that they couldn't afford another Crocop and had to jump on that money train before it disappeared again. Yes the division is thin but they should have probably given the shot to Werdum, instead of making him wait.

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If you think someone else deserved that title shot more: name them. The simple fact is that Brock's quick rise has nothing to do with marketing or gimmicks; it has everything to do with how SHALLOW the HW division as a whole is right now. That's not Brock's fault. Don't hate the player; Hate the game.
I don't hate Brock at all, I hate the game. Actually, I hate him a little because he looks a tad bit unstoppable
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:58 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Not even an Olympic Gold medal winning boxer could turn pro and gain a world title shot after few fights because they know it would make a mockery of their ranking process, Lesnar's title shot was based on him being a big money vessel for the UFC, I'd like to see Lenar fight Cheick Congo who is of a similar size.
The ranking is the only aspect of this that is really bothering me. I can't justify in my mind putting him in the top 5 when he only has 5 fights on his record... And that's assuming he beats Nog. No way is he top 5 right now for beating one top 10 fighter.
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Go back and watch the countdown again. Randy Couture himself got his first HW title fight in only his 4th MMA bout. Randy was 3-0 and Brock was 2-1, but with fights against Mir and Herring I'd argue that Brock faced much tougher, more experienced opponents.
Erm... He lost to Mir (not even top 5) and Herring isn't even top 10.
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