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Old 11-22-2008, 05:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well considering he really shouldn't have been fighting Dos Santos in the first place he isn't the first fighter to get knocked out in a fight that they overlook.

Also he didn't call out Fedor or anything he said fighting in Afflicition will give him the chance to fight Fedor.

Toxic I'm not sure what your point is? Why wouldn't he want to fight Fedor?
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I cud care less that Werdum is gone. He hasent impressed me at all since joining the ufc
Agreed, I never liked Werdum, he's boring and unimpressive. Move on and bring on some better talent as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 11-22-2008, 05:45 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You couldn't care less that the best Jitz guy at HW is gone??

The Arlovski fight was boring yeah but then he finished Napao and made Vera look pretty bad (even though the stoppage was kinda early) and he got caught and finished against Dos Santos.

TBH I bet Dana couldn't wait to get rid of him, I mean he doesn't want a world class Jitz fighter near the top of the HW division with Brock as champ supposing he somehow gets through Nog.
Best Jitz guy in the world??? i think you should rethink that statement. Out of 16 fights 5 of them are submission's. Also in a division that has Mir and Nog i dont see how he is the best submission guy. Im pretty sure he hasent submitted anyone in the UFC and if thats his bread and butter then its not working. Brendan Vera hasent been the same since he lost to Tim Syliva, so his win over a LHW isnt that impressive. His most impressive victory was against Gonzaga and i felt it wasent the best showing by either guy. He to me anyway just isnt that impressive.
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Well considering he really shouldn't have been fighting Dos Santos in the first place he isn't the first fighter to get knocked out in a fight that they overlook.

Also he didn't call out Fedor or anything he said fighting in Afflicition will give him the chance to fight Fedor.

Toxic I'm not sure what your point is? Why wouldn't he want to fight Fedor?

My point is merely that a fight with Fedor at this stage is a long way off and fans are not gonna accept Werdum who just got knocked by a nobody as a worthy contender for the "greatest HW alive",and honstly Affliction isnt giving him that opportunity, I mean even the reason Arlovski is getting the shot instead of Barnette is because of the marquee name value something Werdum does not have.
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I hope he goes to Affliction, the dude can definitely hang with most of the top HWs there. More posts I read about UFC's shady bullshit, the more I want Affliction to get bigger.
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What is up with Werdum and Crocop seems they both lack that hunger...and both are training partners.
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What is up with Werdum and Crocop seems they both lack that hunger...and both are training partners.
Umm did you see werdum's last fight? He certainly did not lack any hunger he was a fat mofo haha
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My point is merely that a fight with Fedor at this stage is a long way off and fans are not gonna accept Werdum who just got knocked by a nobody as a worthy contender for the "greatest HW alive",and honstly Affliction isnt giving him that opportunity, I mean even the reason Arlovski is getting the shot instead of Barnette is because of the marquee name value something Werdum does not have.
Honestly is it that far off though? The only HW for Fedor to fight besides Barnett is Werdum so its not a strecth to think he will fight for the Wamma title at some point in 2009.

Barnett declined the title shot he was offered it first so it had nothing to do with name value.

Also if you don't think Nogueira had the best or at least 2nd best BJJ in the UFC HW division you don't know what you are talking about.
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I really don't get everyone being so down on Werdum. The guy is a fantastic fighter and was not out of shape and lazy for his last fight! He purposely put on more weight. I think letting Werdum go is the stupidest thing the UFC has done in a while. Who is the winner of the heavyweight tourney gonna fight? Werdum was and is a Top 10 HW and worth the money they paid him.

I sure hope Affliction signs him soon and maybe can setup Werdum/Barnett for January
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Honestly is it that far off though? The only HW for Fedor to fight besides Barnett is Werdum so its not a strecth to think he will fight for the Wamma title at some point in 2009.

Barnett declined the title shot he was offered it first so it had nothing to do with name value.

Also if you don't think Nogueira had the best or at least 2nd best BJJ in the UFC HW division you don't know what you are talking about.
Not denying Werdums BJJ is as good as anyone in the HW divisions UFC or not but I feel BJJ is only gonna take him so far and despite him taking the steps necessary (working with Chute Box) I dont feel he has managed to develop into a full blown MMA fighter and although his BJJ is good enough to make him a challenging opponent for anybody I dont think Id ever consider Werdum an elite level HW and if he doesnt do something about his weight he wont even be consided a good HW because to me looking as out of shape as he did in his last fight is a major cause for concern.

You could be right about the title shot but with Affliction struggling I dont see Werdum/Fedor selling any tickets, Affliction 2 will sell based on Arlovski and curiosity about this "Fedor" guy.
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