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Old 11-22-2008, 06:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Umm did you see werdum's last fight? He certainly did not lack any hunger he was a fat mofo haha
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Best Jitz guy in the world??? i think you should rethink that statement. Out of 16 fights 5 of them are submission's. Also in a division that has Mir and Nog i dont see how he is the best submission guy. Im pretty sure he hasent submitted anyone in the UFC and if thats his bread and butter then its not working. Brendan Vera hasent been the same since he lost to Tim Syliva, so his win over a LHW isnt that impressive. His most impressive victory was against Gonzaga and i felt it wasent the best showing by either guy. He to me anyway just isnt that impressive.
Okay I think you just said Mir had better BJJ than Werdum so I'm not sure if there's much point in me replying as you may be a lost cause but I'll have a go.

You throw out "the 5 submission wins out of 16" statistic like that proves hi jitz game isn't any good, well here's some statistics.

1st World Jiu Jitsu Championship 2004
1st BIG Championship 2002
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3rd World JJ Cup 2004 (absolute)
3rd World JJ Championship 2003 (absolute)
3rd Panamerican JJ Championship 2003
3rd World JJ Championship 2002
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But yeah Mir and Nog are better sumbissions guys

And he used his jitz in the Vera fight or don't you rememver him taking him down and mounting him pretty easily?
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I cud care less that Werdum is gone. He hasent impressed me at all since joining the ufc
Couldnt agree more. Good riddance.
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Not denying Werdums BJJ is as good as anyone in the HW divisions UFC or not but I feel BJJ is only gonna take him so far and despite him taking the steps necessary (working with Chute Box) I dont feel he has managed to develop into a full blown MMA fighter and although his BJJ is good enough to make him a challenging opponent for anybody I dont think Id ever consider Werdum an elite level HW and if he doesnt do something about his weight he wont even be consided a good HW because to me looking as out of shape as he did in his last fight is a major cause for concern.

You could be right about the title shot but with Affliction struggling I dont see Werdum/Fedor selling any tickets, Affliction 2 will sell based on Arlovski and curiosity about this "Fedor" guy.
Sorry that comment was towards the other guys in the thread I should've mentioned it.

Is he a great striker? no but he's not horrible and his wrestling is pretty good look at his fight with Vera, Aleks E., and Overeem.

And on the ground no one besides Barnett, Nogueira and Fedor really have a chance which is why everyone avoids the ground like the plague against him even Nogueira kind of avoided the ground game.
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So one of the best HW's in the ufc looses and then the ufc try and cut his pay in half, what bastar*s. I hope eventually theres a fighters strike and the ufc fiunally realises it cannot treat ppl like shi* and get away with it
No buddy I know ever said they can not wait to watch that "Werdum fight". There is good reason he needed a pay cut.
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Okay I think you just said Mir had better BJJ than Werdum so I'm not sure if there's much point in me replying as you may be a lost cause but I'll have a go.

You throw out "the 5 submission wins out of 16" statistic like that proves hi jitz game isn't any good, well here's some statistics.

1st World Jiu Jitsu Championship 2004
1st BIG Championship 2002
1st World Jiu Jitsu Cup 2004
1st World Jiu Jitsu Championship 2003
1st Panamerican JJ Championship 2002
1st Panamerican JJ Championship 2001
1st Panamerican JJ Championship 2000 3rd ADCC Absolute 2003
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1st US Open 2003
1st South of Brazil Championship 2000
1st South of Brazil Championship 1999

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2nd Panamerican JJ Championship 2003 (absolute)
2nd World JJ Championship 2001(absolute)

3rd World JJ Cup 2004 (absolute)
3rd World JJ Championship 2003 (absolute)
3rd Panamerican JJ Championship 2003
3rd World JJ Championship 2002
3rd ADCC weight 2005
3rd ADCC Absolute 2003


But yeah Mir and Nog are better sumbissions guys

And he used his jitz in the Vera fight or don't you rememver him taking him down and mounting him pretty easily?
Big difference implementing BBJ in MMA.
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Who has outgrappled him on the ground? He was on the ground with Gonzaga and Nogueira neither could do anything to him and he almost took Nogueira's back and against Gonzaga he landed some good punches.
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Best in the world... who aren't in the UFC. I wonder if he considers the last guy to beat him as part of the best in the world?
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The best HW's in the world aren't in the UFC. Fedor, Arlovski, Barnett, Sylvia, Werdum, Overeem, Aleks E. those guys are all better then the majority of the UFC HW's.
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I sure hope Affliction signs him soon and maybe can setup Werdum/Barnett for January
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The best HW's in the world aren't in the UFC. Fedor, Arlovski, Barnett, Sylvia, Werdum, Overeem, Aleks E. those guys are all better then the majority of the UFC HW's.
You think Aleks E. is better then majority of the UFC HW's?
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