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Old 11-24-2008, 06:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I agree for the most part however GSP has a huuuge reach (76") for a 5'10" guy. He almost has the same reach as some of the biggest, tallest LHWs.
Thats a really good point. I had no idea he had that large of a reach.
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Really? Silva would have a huge reach advantage...
GSP's reach = 76"
Silvas's = 77"

That's only half an inch on each arm. You're right for the height and weight though.
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:45 PM   #23 (permalink)
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GSP's reach = 76"
Silvas's = 77"

That's only half an inch on each arm. You're right for the height and weight though.
Not sure where you're getting that number. GSP has traditionally had a reach of 74" according to the tale of the tape. There may be some times when the UFC got it wrong but for example I just rewatched UFC 56 and 74 and he was reported at 74" inch reach for each of those events. His arms do not look 76" long to me.

edit: ok, I knew that measurements in the UFC were getting ridiculous (does the state commission measure reach or do UFC officials?!?) but this is terrible. I just rewatched UFC 58, vs Penn, where he apparently grew his reach by two inches since he is listed at 76". Then I rewatched 65, vs Hughes, and GSP is listed at 78"!

It seems to me that the UFC expands his reach according to his opponent. I still go with 74".
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i agree with the OP.
GSP is very talented..but his raw power isnt enough for MW.even in WW he doesnt seem to be have KO power in his hands.and his frame and reach isnt ideal for MW either.
its not his power its how he transitions from stand up to wrestling ,and wrestling technique and also power.ALL IN GSP
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:10 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Who do you guys think would have the speed advantage in this fight?
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Not sure where you're getting that number. GSP has traditionally had a reach of 74" according to the tale of the tape. There may be some times when the UFC got it wrong but for example I just rewatched UFC 56 and 74 and he was reported at 74" inch reach for each of those events. His arms do not look 76" long to me.
The tale of the tape's reach varies a lot from fight to fight, I've seen GSP with 74" a few times and 78" a couple of times. I've been following GSP close as he's my favourite fighter and most of the time, the TOT will say 76" for GSP. So I'm assuming he's around 76". That's amazing for a guy of his height but I guess he's got long arm and very broad shoulders.

A. Silva is 3.5" taller and has much longer arms, however I find him narrower than GSP (my opinion). That's why he only has a small reach advantage over him.
I've seen Silva with 77" or 77.5" sometimes. In his Leben fight TOT said 75.5" but that was his first fight in the UFC so they probably had this wrong. I'm assuming his around 77".

Conclusion: A. Silva will have 0.5" or at most 1" reach advantage on each arm, which can't be considered as "huge".

Here is an interesting image somebody posted before, you can see how much the reach varies from fight to fight:
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Poor Serra sporting a 68 versus a 76.
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Yeah, I edited my post already after watching two others. I still go with 74"- no way does he have a longer reach than silva, or even a half inch on each side. 75" tops.

Wishful thinking, fudging numbers, and plain old mistakes on the part of the UFC and nothing more, imho... just like Big Nog and Mir are only 6'1" according to their website and Randy COuture was only 1" shorter than Lesnar... and an inch taller than Mir and Nog!! (lol)

They just have too many cooks in the kitchen with measurements or something.
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Yeah just read your edit.

I've never said GSP has a longer reach than Silva, my only point was Silva has not a huge reach advantage over GSP like a few people were saying here.
Silva will imo have at most a 1" reach advantage on each arm (77" vs. 75"). I don't give GSP less than 75/76" of reach.

They should measure reach more precisely, their TOTs are getting ridiculous.
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