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Old 12-03-2008, 02:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Forrest would be him again IMO, but this time with constant takedowns,
I still think Wandi will beat him and if he comes into the fight like he did against Jardine he surely will beat him. Personally i think you are belittling Wandi's performance against Jardine...cause that was a great performance.

And depending on shogun's performance against Coleman ill see if rampage can beat him, if it is the real shogun then rampage has no chance...i watched Shogun v Rampage yesterday....ouch

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unquestionably a great performance...but lets be honest...we saw 36 seconds of wanderlei....so while it was nice he got the quick KO, it doesn't override the confidence I've lost in him over the last year and a half...

I am not a Wanderlei hater...I think he's exciting as hell and I'll buy any PPV with him on the card unquestionably...but I am a realist.

J.P....rampage was mounted cuz well, he sucks off his back...and wanderlei ain't gonna triangle anyone...just as he did against Liddell, he'll lie there and hold on until there's a standup or he can stand up himself...zero offense off his back in years

and with regards to the Liddell fight...lets keep in mind this is the same liddell that was beaten by jardine and rampage....and wanderlei looked like shit IMO in that fight...everything that was working for him (leg kicks) he ignored and he let Chuck punch him while he tried to counter with wild haymakers and fell short almost every time...

never accused you of nuthugging....as you've made points, which is fine, i dig that...i don't expect to have everyone's support with my opinions....but I've seen countless replies on this forum to the likes of:

"wanderlei via vicious knees lolz!!!" or "rampage is gonna get eaten alive"....wtf? when was the last time wanderlei's used knee's? and to think that rampage will get eaten alive is crazy..he's better than he used to be, and wanderlei simply isn't.
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:01 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Using Chuck being defeated by Jardine has no merit when critizing Wandy seeing as to how Wandy viciously mauled Jardine.
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:02 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I would love to agree, but I just hope 'Page gets everything straightened out and settled in his personal life. I think all of the turmoil in the background will affect his motivation and focus, whereas Wanderlei is super-amped to continue moving upward for a title shot at light heavy.

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i'm gonna be bold and say what i feel...and that is that all the wanderlei nuthuggers are blinded by the jardine KO and fail to recognize that wanderlei is past his prime and isn't getting better...he's getting worse.....whereas IMO rampage's boxing has improved enough to win a standup battle with wanderlei....not only that, but his conditioning is WAYYY better than it used to be...way better

if rampage is smart, he'll take wanderlei down and punish him...why bother w/ the standup when your opponent is so helpless of his back?

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Old 12-03-2008, 03:16 AM   #14 (permalink)
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unquestionably a great performance...but lets be honest...we saw 36 seconds of wanderlei....so while it was nice he got the quick KO, it doesn't override the confidence I've lost in him over the last year and a half...

I am not a Wanderlei hater...I think he's exciting as hell and I'll buy any PPV with him on the card unquestionably...but I am a realist.

J.P....rampage was mounted cuz well, he sucks off his back...and wanderlei ain't gonna triangle anyone...just as he did against Liddell, he'll lie there and hold on until there's a standup or he can stand up himself...zero offense off his back in years

and with regards to the Liddell fight...lets keep in mind this is the same liddell that was beaten by jardine and rampage....and wanderlei looked like shit IMO in that fight...everything that was working for him (leg kicks) he ignored and he let Chuck punch him while he tried to counter with wild haymakers and fell short almost every time...

never accused you of nuthugging....as you've made points, which is fine, i dig that...i don't expect to have everyone's support with my opinions....but I've seen countless replies on this forum to the likes of:

"wanderlei via vicious knees lolz!!!" or "rampage is gonna get eaten alive"....wtf? when was the last time wanderlei's used knee's? and to think that rampage will get eaten alive is crazy..he's better than he used to be, and wanderlei simply isn't.
MY perception of it is that he will end up using the knees as that is Rampages weakness in the clinch, and Randy will be smart enough to exploit it, much like he made Forrest stick and move...but its up to Wandi to listen
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:23 AM   #15 (permalink)
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but his conditioning is WAYYY better than it used to be...way better
I agree Rampage will win this fight, but do you think his conditioning is going to be as good with this new camp?

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MY perception of it is that he will end up using the knees as that is Rampages weakness in the clinch, and Randy will be smart enough to exploit it, much like he made Forrest stick and move...but its up to Wandi to listen
Rampage lost to Forrest because he wouldn't avoid the leg kicks early like he did after Forrest destroyed them already. I'm still mad about that even tho i like Forrest.


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Old 12-03-2008, 03:28 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I agree Rampage will win this fight, but do you think his conditioning is going to be as good with this new camp?
it's a big cliche in the mma world, but rampage in an interview said he's never been in this kind of shape before....take it for what it's worth tho
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I find it hard to believe that he's never taken weight training until he arrived at Wolfslair as he claims in numerous interviews. The dude looked really jacked against Liddell and Henderson, heck he looks like in most of his fights.
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Using Chuck being defeated by Jardine has no merit when critizing Wandy seeing as to how Wandy viciously mauled Jardine.
i wasn't doing mmamath, i was pointing out that chuck was in a slump
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if rampage is smart, he'll take wanderlei down and punish him...why bother w/ the standup when your opponent is so helpless of his back?
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J.P....rampage was mounted cuz well, he sucks off his back...

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