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Old 12-03-2008, 03:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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u do realize that lutter has one of the best jits in the mma?
Sure i know he has good jitz. He caught Franklin in a dangerous armbar. But whats the point of having good jitz if youre too fat and lazy to use it properly?
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Sure i know he has good jitz. He caught Franklin in a dangerous armbar. But whats the point of having good jitz if youre too fat and lazy to use it properly?
i agree he is fat and lazy but his jitz is sick... i mean his top game is top notch
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:29 PM   #24 (permalink)
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If someone can provide a video link or a gif for this part of the fight to clear this up, that would be awesome.
Here ya go, the first shot is block and the one following is the only one I can see being solid. After that most of them miss or graze his head.



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anderson silva's weakness is damien maia for sure...maybe palhares cuz he has awesome td's, but maia has the bjj ability of submit anderson once it hits the floor....your not going to 'outwork' anderson b/c he's too dangerous everywhere to be outworked, but a guy like maia is one of the few MW fighters who is better at one aspect of mma than anderson is...
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The last two punches catch him, but its some poor ground n pound. And its pretty poor defense from Silva. When Silva had his arms outstretched, Lutter should have gone for an armbar. I dont think a bjj guru like Maia would pass up that sort of opportunity
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u do realize that lutter has one of the best jits in the mma?
Hahaha, no he does not.
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Why do people rag on GSP's striking? He was originally a striker. Watch his fight against Hieron. Its good now and its always been.
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Why do people rag on GSP's striking? He was originally a striker. Watch his fight against Hieron. Its good now and its always been.
his striking from the outside is excellent...when he can keep his distance and throw some leg kicks....it's when he's in the pocket where i think he's the weakest...he's not "bad", but it's the worst part of his game....especially when he misses a punch, he doesn't seem to have the motion down well enough to maintain proper composure to avoid getting hit himself.... here's an example:



he's kind of caught in an exchange and doesn't really know what to do so he just throws his hands out there...

now that was a while ago...but the a similar moment happened in the Fitch fight. 3rd round, after he landed the knee, headkick, knee combo...it happens just before he takes Fitch down....he starts throwing punches and just isn't fluid at all...his defense is virtually nonexistant....

to me, this is a big plus for Penn, because, if GSP decides to start exchanging hands....especially in say round 3ish (like the fitch fight), he will leave openings to land a bomb....Penn's economy of motion is excellent standing...no wasted movement at all...which allows him to catch fighters standing if they make even the slightest error....the drawback to having this style of striking is it leave Penn open for kicks...which GSP capitalized on in the first fight, and even Sherk landed some really hard kicks to Penn...and I saw the locker room footage of Penn after the Sherk fight and it looked like his leg was pretty badly bruised....

penn's hands are by no means godlike however...sherk hit him pretty damn hard about 1 minute into their fight...however, bj has a granite chin and i've never really seen him rocked ever in mma

let me just add that when analyzing a fight as complicated as this one...we can't simply say "gsp has better wrestling", "penn has better striking"....you need to look in depth at these aspects of mma to really get any kind of meaningful predictions
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