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Old 12-03-2008, 09:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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After watching Anderson Silva vs Travis Lutter on UFC wired lastnight, and seeing Silva look less than impressive off his back, i'd like to hear peoples opinions on the current champs, their weaknesses, and who you think could take the belt from them.

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Lightweight: BJ PENN - His weakness is without doubt his cardio and work ethic. He would likely struggle against someone who will wear him down and break his will. I think Tyson Griffin could actually be BJ's toughest fight at lightweight right now.

Welterweight: GEORGE ST PIERRE - I would say his weakness is his stand-up. Yes, thats right. I think its where he is most vulnerable. I've seen it time and time again where he leaves himself open, and his head movement sucks. He'd struggle against a good striker, with good takedown defence. Discounting BJ as he's not a WW, i'd be inclined to go for a ranked outsider in Mike Swick.

Middleweight: ANDERSSON SILVA - Going off what is fresh in my mind, which is the Lutter fight, Silva seems to struggle on the ground. He has a great guard where he utilises a body triangle off the bottom, but when he was mounted, he got clocked with what could have been fight ending blows if Lutter wasnt such a wobbly no hoper. And his "defence" was initially to raise his arms up and try and prevent Lutter from swinging. So someone with a good ground game would be difficult for Silva, so i'm going for Maia or Reljic.

Lightheavyweight: FORREST GRIFFIN - His weakness is his striking. His punches are fluid, he mixes well with his kicks, but he lacks that KO power. Meaning his fights are likely to be wars, cos he just doesnt quit. His biggest obstacle will be a good wrestler and fast striker. And i hate to say it, but thats Rashad Evans

Heavyweight: ANTONIO NOGUEIRA - Difficult one here because he doesnt have any glaring weaknesses. His stand-up isnt great, but he has an inhuman ability to take a shot. His wrestling isnt great, but his jitz is awesome. His biggest problem would be a guy with good standup and good jitz, or enough sense not to participate in the groundgame at all.

Heavyweight: BROCK LESNAR - Brock is still learning the do's and dont's of MMA, and has weaknesses in all areas. Jitz being the most prominent, then striking, and just a few holes in his wrestling. I think he'd struggle against powerful strikers with some jitz knowledge.

I pick Gonzaga to give both of these the most trouble.

What are your thoughts?
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Um all of those shots lutter was trying to hit silva with were grazing off his head.
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Um all of those shots lutter was trying to hit silva with were grazing off his head.
There were two that hit him flush on the jaw, but none of his punches were thrown with any conviction.
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I thought he fought pretty well in that fight considering I think he was out of knee surgery 6 weeks before the fight on both knees.

the way the guy fights, he is going to get caught in weird spots because he is offensively pretty aggressive at times (flying knees, kicks, etc...)

I am with yort, I didnt see any shots that he didnt defend, more less catch him solid.
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I thought I heard somewhere Silva had pneumonia or something like that for the Lutter fight. If that's true it could explain his weak ground game that night. It also says alot that he still won.
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I thought he fought pretty well in that fight considering I think he was out of knee surgery 6 weeks before the fight on both knees.

the way the guy fights, he is going to get caught in weird spots because he is offensively pretty aggressive at times (flying knees, kicks, etc...)

I am with yort, I didnt see any shots that he didnt defend, more less catch him solid.
If someone can provide a video link or a gif for this part of the fight to clear this up, that would be awesome.
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I'd say GSP's biggest threat (brace yourself for a big surprise) would be...Thiago Alves. The best pure Muay Thai in the division and really good TDD. On top of that if GSP were to get him to the ground he has the BJJ and physical strength to hang.

I'd also agree that anderson's biggest threat would be someone with amazing BJJ. Like Maia. If they don't get knocked out first.
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I'd say GSP's biggest threat (brace yourself for a big surprise) would be...Thiago Alves. The best pure Muay Thai in the division and really good TDD. On top of that if GSP were to get him to the ground he has the BJJ and physical strength to hang.

I'd also agree that anderson's biggest threat would be someone with amazing BJJ. Like Maia. If they don't get knocked out first.
I was thinking Alves, but i noticed he seems to slip a gear if things arent going his way. And he'd need some steeley determination against GSP

And Maia would have been a hands down choice, but we havent really seen much of his stand-up, so like you said, its very possible he could get KO'd looking to take him down, whereas Reljic is eastern european so he's automatically hard as hell!
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I'd say GSP's biggest threat (brace yourself for a big surprise) would be...Thiago Alves. The best pure Muay Thai in the division and really good TDD. On top of that if GSP were to get him to the ground he has the BJJ and physical strength to hang.
Yeah Alves is easily GSP's biggest threat at WW IMO. Not the most technical boxer but he's got some serious power and very nice knees and kicks. I don't buy into the whole "GSP's got a weak chin" but he hasn't got a good one either IMO, add his poor head movement and if he can't get Thiago down it could be a long night for GSP. I'd still pick GSP in this fight though TBH.
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I wouldn't call submitting a BJJ black belt from your back "less than impressive", but who am I to judge. Anyway, these are my opinions on the subject:

BJ Penn
1. Biggest weakness: Cardio and work ethic.
2. Biggest threat at the moment: Kenny Florian.

Georges St.-Pierre
1. Standup (which only indicates how great his wrestling and ground game is), possibly chin and/or mental game.
2. Thiago Alves

Anderson Silva
1. Wrestling/takedown defense.
2. Anderson Silva. I don't think anyone can beat him right now unless he does some stupid mistake.

Forrest Griffin
1. Punching power, explosiveness.
2. Lyoto Machida, although I think Rashad will beat him in his next fight.

Antonio Nogueira
1. Predictability. Everybody knows that he will be going for the takedown if he gets a chance, so you know what to look out for.
2. Gabriel Gonzaga. I don't think he could stop Nog, but he could bully him around to get a decision win without getting subbed.

Brock Lesnar
1. Submission defense
2. Antonio Nogueira
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