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Old 12-05-2008, 06:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Guys I think he is still going to be doing his camps at The Pit, I don't think this is a permanent move.
I'm sure this isn't permanent, but I think getting other people's input will only help him see where he needs to put in more work.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It's good for him but Liddell's not going to be back on top of the LHW division ever again IMO. No matter where he trains.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
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It's good for him but Liddell's not going to be back on top of the LHW division ever again IMO. No matter where he trains.
He beat Silva, and everyone hangs onto silvas nuts like he is going to destroy the lhw division.
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Liddell matches up with Silva perfectly I mentioned it before their fight even though I picked Silva my head was telling me Liddell would win.

However Liddell is a one trick pony. A counter striker who needs people to come towards him and fighters have figured that out.

Evans, Rampage, and Jardine all showed if you make him come foward Liddell isn't all that good.

Wandy won't win the title again either however Wanderlei's style gives him a chance to win any fight.
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Liddell matches up with Silva perfectly I mentioned it before their fight even though I picked Silva my head was telling me Liddell would win.

However Liddell is a one trick pony. A counter striker who needs people to come towards him and fighters have figured that out.

Evans, Rampage, and Jardine all showed if you make him come foward Liddell isn't all that good.

Wandy won't win the title again either however Wanderlei's style gives him a chance to win any fight.

But there may be a change in styles, possibly to the really aggressive Chuck that was shown at UFC 40 against Babalu where Rogan said "Chuck never moves backwards"
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
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That was against Babalu who was no threat striking.

And also Chuck has been coming foward it's just that he sucks at it.

Rashad KO'd him coming foward and so did Rampage.

He's 39 and in a stacked division full of guys who are better then him.
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I think everyone is counting Chuck out way too early. I still think he has alot left. One thing that doesnt go away with age is power, and Chuck still has plenty of it. nI just think he has to tweak a few things in his striking. He obviously has a few holes and hopefully a ATT can help him with that. It also depends on who he gets matched up against. Im very curious what caliber of fighter they are going to give him in his next fight. Im not saying give him a can, but I think they should give him an opponent he matches up well against. Matt Hammill, or the winner of Shogun/Coleman.
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Liddell matches up with Silva perfectly I mentioned it before their fight even though I picked Silva my head was telling me Liddell would win.

However Liddell is a one trick pony. A counter striker who needs people to come towards him and fighters have figured that out.

Evans, Rampage, and Jardine all showed if you make him come foward Liddell isn't all that good.

Wandy won't win the title again either however Wanderlei's style gives him a chance to win any fight.
How is Wanderlei's style less one-dimensional than Chuck's? Yeah, his arsenal is diverse and he has a "black belt" (notice the quotes), but he fights the same fight every time he's in the octagon. He's really just a striker who likes to bang rather than grapple, kind of like how Chuck's got a decent wrestling background but only uses it to keep the fight standing.
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Beating Matt Hammill proves nothing that guy is trash.

Liddell's biggest problem is that he is losing to guys striking who aren't even the best strikers at 205.

Rashad, and Jardine aren't excellent strikers at 205.

I mean I would rank both of them behind Rampage, Lyoto, and Anderson.

It's just different Fedor>ALL. Wandy will come right at you and he has a chance to drop you even if you have a smart gameplan him being a brawler gives him a chance no matter what, Liddell if you have the right gameplan is kinda screwed look at the fight with Rashad. They are both one dimensional.
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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chuck truly needed a change in training in order to grow as a fighter as the division is growing.

ATT should also set him straight on his retarded weight cutting technique (cutting it all the day of the weigh in...)
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