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Old 12-05-2008, 07:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Wandy uses knees amd clinch work, along with fists and kicks.

And a win over Hamill might not do anything for Chuck rankings wise. But it could help him with his timing and get his confidence back.

And Hamill is not terrible. I truly believe he held back against Franklin because of their friendship.
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Old 12-05-2008, 08:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Beating Matt Hammill proves nothing that guy is trash.

Liddell's biggest problem is that he is losing to guys striking who aren't even the best strikers at 205.

Rashad, and Jardine aren't excellent strikers at 205.

I mean I would rank both of them behind Rampage, Lyoto, and Anderson.

It's just different Fedor>ALL. Wandy will come right at you and he has a chance to drop you even if you have a smart gameplan him being a brawler gives him a chance no matter what, Liddell if you have the right gameplan is kinda screwed look at the fight with Rashad. They are both one dimensional.
Chuck was winning on the score cards in the fight with Rashad though until he got knocked out, from what I recall. Rashad was trying to pull a Machida, but he loaded up on one punch and dropped Chuck. By no means was Chuck screwed in that fight. Chuck and Wanderlei are cut from the same cloth in my opinion, they're both relatively sloppy brawlers that can end a fight in one punch---coming forward and countering.


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Wandy uses knees amd clinch work, along with fists and kicks.

And a win over Hamill might not do anything for Chuck rankings wise. But it could help him with his timing and get his confidence back.

And Hamill is not terrible. I truly believe he held back against Franklin because of their friendship.
That's kind of stupid, no offense. Why would he choose to stand and punch his friend in the face if he didn't want to hurt Rich? If he truly held back, he would have just kept taking Rich down and laid on-top of him. Rich just tooled him with a more diverse arsenal, plain and simple.
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I'm really glad about this. No, Chuck will never have the same glory he had before, but he will still be a force if he's attempting to change his game around. I can't wait to see him fight again!
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Chuck could probably be very boring and win a lot of fights by decision the way he won the first round against Rashad.

The difference between Chuck and Wanderlei is that Chuck is at his best when his opponent comes to him Wanderlei is at his best when he attacks his opponents.
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Chuck could probably be very boring and win a lot of fights by decision the way he won the first round against Rashad.
I'd probably blame Rashad for that though, seeing as he took a round to figure out Chuck's rhythm.

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The difference between Chuck and Wanderlei is that Chuck is at his best when his opponent comes to him Wanderlei is at his best when he attacks his opponents.
Yeah, but both guys can do the opposite of their strength as well. Wanderlei actually out-countered Chuck in the second round of their fight, and Chuck was actually more effective when he was the aggressor.
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I agree but if an opponent doesn't come to Chuck he really can't do anything.

Chuck vs Wanderlei was a different type of fight IMO.

I don't see the way those two fought in it to carry over to fights against other guys.

Chuck comes foward and gets knocked out for the most part look at Rampage and Rashad. If he won't come foward Jardine showed you can just outscore him with kicks.

Wanderlei isn't a great counter puncher he eats a lot of shots and likes to just throw which works at times but he will lose his share of fights. He can also beat anyone at LHW but that's just how it goes.
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A little too late, but hey, at least Chuck is trying something different. This will only help him, as ATT is a great camp.

They'll tighten up his striking and defense.
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A little too late, but hey, at least Chuck is trying something different. This will only help him, as ATT is a great camp.

They'll tighten up his striking and defense.
If Randy can reinvent himself and come back better then before, so can Chuck

This is really really really fantastic news
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Randy just sharpened up his striking and his grappling and he got older he didn't reinvent himself really. Also he went to two divisions that weren't close to as loaded as LHW is right now.

LHW had Tito and Chuck and HW had Sylvia and Arlovski.

Chuck would have to actually reinvent himself and at 39 in a loaded division it's just not happening.
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