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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-05-2008, 09:08 PM Thread Starter
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Anybody else think Randy's "gameplans" are mad overrated?

I mean really..he does the same thing every fight...boxes when he has to, clinches against the fence, uses his greco to control his opponent, dirty box, take them down when the time is right and GnP away....

He's doing what he's good at...which is smart, but this whole mystic about Randy's gameplan abilities is kinda getting weak.
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That's like saying that Anderson Silva is overrated because 'all he does is punch, kick, knee and sometimes grapple.'

People say that Randy has good gameplans because he uses his abilities in such a way that they typically make his opponent's strengths useless. He was able to outstrike Liddell because he kept moving and didn't let Chuck find his range (as opposed to just trying to take him down, like the typical wrestler). He was able to outstrike Sylvia because he saw holes in Sylvia's striking that he was able to take advantage of by coming forward and throwing punches over the top. He was able to avoid Gonzaga's strikes AND his BJJ by using his greco skills and keeping the fight to the clinch. Ect.

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who is rating his gameplans?
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I don't think his gameplans are overrated, I just think his execution is off a fair sum of the time.

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That's like saying that Anderson Silva is overrated because 'all he does is punch, kick, knee and sometimes grapple.'
actually it has nothing to do with anderson silva...and the comparison isn't correct....

b4 most randy fights, people say alot of 'randy will find a way to win'....i just don't get it...at least not as of late...he finds a way to win by doing the same thing he always does....
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actually it has nothing to do with anderson silva...and the comparison isn't correct....

b4 most randy fights, people say alot of 'randy will find a way to win'....i just don't get it...at least not as of late...he finds a way to win by doing the same thing he always does....
I think the main part of his gameplan is finding his opponent's weaknesses and holes and exposing them. The ones that most people do not know about... yet.

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I don't think his gameplan changes what he does (although perhaps gameplan is the wrong word for Randy).

I agree, he does a similar varaition to what you said in almost all fights. Sure he'll emphasis some things over others depending on the fighter, but it's not his 'gameplanning' he's great at. What i think he's very good at is identifying what his opponents best weapons are, and what their weaknesses are.

It doesn't mean he changes his style, just that he anticipates their moves very well, and tries to stays away from the pointy end of the stick so to speak. Doesn't always work, but it seems like every fight he has....he's in it and going back and forth.

I've never really seen someone school Randy Couture.

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Is this just because he lost to Lesnar?

He does put together good gameplans but he doesn't have all the best skills when it comes to pure striking and a great sub game. But he uses his skills to try and force his gameplan against others' skillset. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't- planning a great gameplan doesn't always translate into victory but he tries to put himself in the best possible position to win the fight using the skills he has against his opponents' tendencies and style.

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I mean really..he does the same thing every fight...boxes when he has to, clinches against the fence, uses his greco to control his opponent, dirty box, take them down when the time is right and GnP away....

He's doing what he's good at...which is smart, but this whole mystic about Randy's gameplan abilities is kinda getting weak.
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I somewhat agree, I mean, he doesn't do anyhting too different to "expose" his opponents. To expose your opponent, you have to do what they're not good at.

I'm not saying his game plan isn't good, cause it's pretty good and what else is he going to offer? Alls Im sayin is people make him out to be Sun Tzu or something.
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