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Old 12-09-2008, 10:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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That's why everybody's against GSP/BJ being a title fight. If Penn wins and keep winning it would screw up both LW and WW divisions as each LW and WW contender will have to wait 1 year to get their shot...

It's surely frustrating to wait almost a year to finally get the shot but If I was Kenny, I wouldn't take the risk of loosing a fight and having to build my way back up again. But hopefully this won't happen, BJ will get his arsh kicked by GSP, Thiago will get his shot late spring and Kenny summer of 09.
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I'm don't like it either but it is what it is. So unless he faces Sherk or BJ nothing else would help him selling PPV's so his fight can be a main event.
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Yea but lets say BJ beats GSP. With BJ not wanting to fight too much in one year that means late 09 at the earliest for his title shot.

Do you really think Kenny wants to sit out for a year?
As much I love this GSP/BJ superfight, it really isn't worth it knowing shit like this might happen.
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I'm don't like it either but it is what it is. So unless he faces Sherk or BJ nothing else would help him selling PPV's so his fight can be a main event.
Well, whenever Kenny fought another "big name" in the division, like Sherk, Lauzon, Joe Daddy, etc. he's always been main event or at least co-main event on the card (except when he fought Huerta, because GSP and Lesnar were fighting too). If he fights BJ for the title, it will definitely be main event, unless there'll be another title fight on the card at a heavier weight class. (casual fans would pay more to see "heavier" people fighting each other, that's how it is)
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I wonder if Diego will go back to Jackson's camp now since he's dropped weight. They left on good terms, supposedly.
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I'm don't like it either but it is what it is. So unless he faces Sherk or BJ nothing else would help him selling PPV's so his fight can be a main event.
Florian could "Silva it up" and fight some WW instead without screwing his title shot chances by losing.
Or he could be the american coach on next TUF :P
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Well, whenever Kenny fought another "big name" in the division, like Sherk, Lauzon, Joe Daddy, etc. he's always been main event or at least co-main event on the card (except when he fought Huerta, because GSP and Lesnar were fighting too). If he fights BJ for the title, it will definitely be main event, unless there'll be another title fight on the card at a heavier weight class. (casual fans would pay more to see "heavier" people fighting each other, that's how it is)
Yea but Florian isn't a big name at all a fight between him and BJ would probably do similar numbers to BJ vs Joe.

Now coming off a big win over a fan favorite like Diego BJ vs Kenny would do IMO a lot better. Plus it gives Kenny a chance to redeem a loss.
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Yea but Florian isn't a big name at all a fight between him and BJ would probably do similar numbers to BJ vs Joe.

Now coming off a big win over a fan favorite like Diego BJ vs Kenny would do IMO a lot better. Plus it gives Kenny a chance to redeem a loss.
It's always relevant to analyze match-ups, main events and title fights with the PPV perspective because PPV predictions is what's driving all that. Actually, cards with a LW fight as main event never really generated big numbers because as I said in my previous post, the fans will pay more to see heavier fighters ktfo of each other. The most popular divisions among the fans are undoubtedly LHW and then HW (should it be deep...) because in general they're the divisions where the most KOs occur.

BJ/Joe only generated 225,000 PPV buys. That's also because the co-main event was GG/Werdum, 2 great fighters but 1) unknown among the casual fans and 2) both coming off losses which doesn't help for the hyping.
BJ/Sherk, the 2 most popular fighters in their division, was the main event @ UFC 84 and considering the other fighters on the card, it didn't do a lot: 475,000 buys. Along with Penn and Sherk, we had Wandy (very popular fighter worldwide), Jardine (the man that KOd Forrest 1st round and just won to Chuck), Lyoto (for hardcore fans) and last but not least, Tito (always been a big draw in the UFC + his very last fight in the Octagon).
My point is LW fights don't do big numbers in general, even when the biggest names in the division are fighting each other for the title + there are other big names fighting on the same card.

IMO Kenny now became one of the biggest names at LW, behind Penn and Sherk. He's pretty popular among the hardcore and casual fans because he was in the TUF + he's on an impressive 6 fights win streak + he submitted another popular fighter in the first round, in front of several millions of fans watching UFC 91. This is the right moment for him to get his shot.
Also, by judging his salary, he earns the same amount of money as Sherk does (40K just to show up) so I assume he brings approximately the same amount of PPV buys as him.

Now from Kenny's fighter perspective. He's finally earned his shot and had a very hard way up there. The UFC said he definitely earned it and will be fighting for the belt next. So he doesn't need to fight anymore to prove himself, just needs to wait until BJ is ready and hopefully that will be in 6 months. I see him fighting Sanchez in the future for sure but why would he take the risk of fighting him next? To maybe loose and have to fight another 2/3 years to get his shot? That wouldn't make sense at all. I'd rather wait (hopefully) 6 months and eventually another 6 months than having to fight another 2/3 years. This being said, I'm pretty sure he's praying every night for BJ to loose to GSP, like many of us do on this forum lol.

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Yea but he has big time name value and that would help Kenny.

I mean what can Kenny do if BJ wins the WW title or gets hurt against GSP?

A match up with Diego would really help him.
I'd rather see him rematch with Sherk. Put Diego in there against Tyson Griffin or Roger Huerta
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Florian could "Silva it up" and fight some WW instead without screwing his title shot chances by losing.
Or he could be the american coach on next TUF :P
How could he be a coach on TUF,the 2 coaches are due to fight at the end of it,and seeing as Bisping is definate coach of the british team,florian is 2 weight classes below and there wouldn't be a fight at the end of the show.

I totally disagree with the GSP/BJ fight,it's messed up at least 3 or 4 quality fights at there own respective weight classes.
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