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Frank Mir : "Lesnar will Never Beat Me" article

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Frank Mir: 'Brock Lesnar Will Never Beat Me' But No Such Guarantee for Nogueira or Fedor
Posted Dec 10th 2008 7:00AM by Michael David Smith (author feed)
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Frank Mir will fight Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira for the UFC interim heavyweight title at the end of this month, and he expects that to be the toughest fight of his career.

"I'm watching all of Nogueira's old fights to get ready," Mir told me when we talked this week. "He's a great martial artist."

Mir said he's training as hard as he ever has for the Nogueira fight -- which will take place at UFC 92 on December 27 in Las Vegas -- because he believes he needs to fight better than he ever has before. And he also said he thinks he's going to need to out-fight Nogueira for 25 minutes and convince the judges that he's won at least three out of five rounds, because Nogueira is simply too tough to be knocked out or submitted. All in all, Mir knows he has a very, very big challenge ahead of him.

But while Mir had nothing but praise for Nogueira, he has a different attitude toward the man he'll fight if he beats Nogueira, Brock Lesnar. Mir has already defeated Lesnar once, at UFC 81 in February, and he says he's certain that if they fight again, he'll win again.

"Brock Lesnar will never be able to beat me because he has no submission skills," Mir told me. "What's he going to do, knock me out? No one has never knocked me cold. What's he going to do, arm bar me? No way. He is powerful. He is big. But martial arts isn't filled with guys from the NFL. Lesnar had to grab the cage not to get taken down by Randy Couture, who's 220 pounds. Lesnar isn't the phenom that everyone makes him out to be. He started at 30. Have you ever seen a boxer start at 30 and become a world champion?"

I told Mir that most fans think he'd lose a re-match with Lesnar, based on the way Lesnar was pounding him early in their fight. Mir got a brief reprieve when the referee stood the fight up and warned Lesnar about hitting Mir in the back of the head, and shortly after that, Mir submitted Lesnar by catching him in a knee bar.

Mir said he understands why fans think that way, but that he believes he's so much more skilled than Lesnar that he'll be able to beat him even if Lesnar jumps on top of him and lands a series of punches.

"You see, he was completely kicking my ass," Mir said. "He was beating the s**t out of me. But I'm saying I'm going to figure out a way to win. Lesnar hit me so hard I was seeing flashes of light every time they landed. But at no point did quitting ever cross my mind."

Mir also said that, despite Lesnar's freakish athleticism, he thinks he'll have a significant conditioning advantage over the bigger man.

"The next time we fight, it's a five-round fight," Mir said. "Even if he beats the s**t out of me for the first two rounds, he won't last. He's so big, and the bigger you are, the harder it is on your heart. ... Brock can take me down. He's bigger, stronger and wrestled for 20 years. When he's fresh, if he wants to put me on my back, he'll put me on my back. But until then I'll be putting my shin upside his head, and when he does put me on my back, what's he going to do then?"

Looking back on his first fight with Lesnar, Mir said he thinks the UFC chose him to be Lesnar's first opponent in the Octagon because the UFC thought Lesnar would win. Mir said the UFC believed he would fight against Lesnar the same way he fought in 2006 in a loss to Marcio "Pe de Pano" Cruz, a fight that Mir described as "Frank Mir at his pussiest moment."

But Mir says he's advanced so far as a martial artist since then that he barely recognizes the version of himself who lost to Cruz.

"I watch that fight now and it completely haunts me," Mir said. "By training with Ken Hahn, who comes from that full-contact karate school where he's hitting me in the back of the head while I'm hitting the bag, I learned that pain is a temporary state."

Mir said it's that training that gives him a chance to beat Nogueira in two weeks, and that makes him certain he'll beat Lesnar if he gets the opportunity in 2009.

But there's one person Mir doesn't think he could beat: Fedor Emelianenko.

"Fedor's the best heavyweight in the world," Mir told me. "I hope one day I could fight him and do well, but right now he's better than I am. As a martial artist you have to be truthful about yourself so you can approach your training properly and get better. Fedor has great killer instinct, he's tough, he's strong. If I fought him I'd try to catch him in a submission, but I don't know if Fedor can be beaten. He's the best heavyweight."

However, in a sign of just how much respect Mir has for his next opponent, Mir said he believes that Nogueira could beat Fedor. Although Fedor twice beat Nogueira by unanimous decision, Mir says that if those two fought for long enough -- and without judges -- Nogueira would figure out a way to come out on top.

"If Nogueira and Fedor fought in a fight with no time limit, I would bet on Nogueira," Mir said.




Glad to see he has some respect for the great Nog, and lack of respect for Lesner
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It seems like Lesnar is in his head and that isn't a good thing. I don't think he would win a rematch the Lesnar he would be fighting isn't the one he fought before, he would be much better. Also, I don't think he is going to be able to out work Nog for five rounds. I say sub in the second by Nog.
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Interesting.
The thing is, unlike many people on this board, I like Mir. But I really find it hard to believe some of the claims he's made. I really hope he truly is training his ass of like he's never trained before and reinventing himself. Hopefully he can prove us all wrong.

Based on what I've seen from him, I just don't see him getting past Noguira or Lesnar. I want to, but I just don't.

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LOL at Mir having a better gas tank than anyone, let alone a cardio freak like Lensar.

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We'll see. I think they are pretty evenly matched. Mir won't make it past Noguiera. The Lesnar fight will be completely on the fence; but anyway, all this "never beat me" talk is just a classic way to get beaten in the ass.

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I don't quite get why people don't like Mir. He's about as honest as you can get in interviews. He says who he thinks he would beat, acknowledges and respects guys he thinks are going to be extremely tough, and admits that he probably wouldnt beat Fedor and gives him the props he deserves.

So what if he thinks he could beat Lesnar, i think he can, and he already has once. Lesnar has no submission skills, and i don't care how athletic you are or whatever, stuff like that takes much longer to learn than Brock fans would like to admit.

I hope his words are true and he shows up in the best shape of his life. I want to see a good fight on the 27th. If he doesn't, Nog is going to walk through him inside 2 rounds.

Lesnar is NOT a cardio freak. Lets just stop talking that nonsense right now.

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I don't quite get why people don't like Mir. He's about as honest as you can get in interviews. He says who he thinks he would beat, acknowledges and respects guys he thinks are going to be extremely tough, and admits that he probably wouldnt beat Fedor and gives him the props he deserves.

So what if he thinks he could beat Lesnar, i think he can, and he already has once. Lesnar has no submission skills, and i don't care how athletic you are or whatever, stuff like that takes much longer to learn than Brock fans would like to admit.

I hope his words are true and he shows up in the best shape of his life. I want to see a good fight on the 27th. If he doesn't, Nog is going to walk through him inside 2 rounds.

Lesnar is NOT a cardio freak. Lets just stop talking that nonsense right now.
I think I'll take the word of his current coaches and that of an NFL position coach over yours.

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Frankie should realize that "quitting was never on my mind" really doesn't matter when the ref stops the fight. All this lack of respect for Lesnar will cost anyone someday, because the guy will only become better. He had Mir on the verge of a loss in his second MMA fight ever and beat Herring and Cotoure in his third and fourth fight, give the guy some credit.
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LOL at Mir having a better gas tank than anyone, let alone a cardio freak like Lensar.
Lesnar was looking pretty winded in the 2nd with Randy if you ask me.




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Well at least he knows he wont beat Nog either....



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