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Old 12-11-2008, 02:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I must say, when that guy said he was proud he broke the guy's arm and wanted to do that for the longest time, it did bother me. I understand that it can happen, like the Mir/Silvia fight. But the way it happened last night, and the comments really made me see MMA in a different light, I was so disgusted I din't even watched the main event, I went to bed after I saw Goulet lost(cheering for Canadians). And that Corey Hill thing was just gross. Today I find myself less interested in seeing UFC 92, maybe it will pass, we'll see.
This is not meant as an attack, so please dont take it as one. Being from Canada, I'm a bit suprised to see you're take on this night of great fights. When was the last time someone in Canada was shocked at a Hockey player breaking an arm? Does anyone really feel sorry for the guy who is spitting out teeth after throwing down the gloves and going at it? I see the Hockey ref's just watch these guys pound it out until they are done, then send them to the penalty box for 3 mins. MMA is a Fighting sport, and in fights people get hurt. Cantwell is a total deushbag and a classless loser, but I don't fault him for performing a textbook armbar. Corey Hill had a freak accident, but it could of been prevented with some shin conditioning, which any serious Muay Thai fighter works on constantly. Oh and since you're in Canada is there any way you can hook me up with some episodes of "trailer park boys" that is some very funny stuff!!!
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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For me yeah, last night was a big downer. I am still a fan, but seeing guys get injured makes me feel disapointed with myself for that inclanation. Seeing guys get injured greatly detracts from my ability to enjoy the sport, the injuries last night ruined the show for me.

I think MMA is the most exciting sport there is. Other sports don't make much sence to me to be honest. I haven't resigned myself to the idea that injuries happen though, and "thats the risk they take for stepping in there". It's a tricky situation, but ever since the begginging MMA has been trading in realism for saftey, maybe they need to do a bit more work there.



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Dude, these guys are fighting in the UFC because they love to do it, they know that there is a risk of injury. Don't feel sorry for them, they are having the time of their life in there. Crap happens, injuries heal.

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Old 12-11-2008, 02:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Until all the prudes and crazies go away, this kind of stuff will never go away.

As long as we don't get another McCain trying to boost his career by attacking MMA, we'll be fine.

And to 70seven, I don't get it. One guy makes one retarded, insensitive comment and you view the sport differently? That just doesn't make sense.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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This is not meant as an attack, so please dont take it as one. Being from Canada, I'm a bit suprised to see you're take on this night of great fights. When was the last time someone in Canada was shocked at a Hockey player breaking an arm? Does anyone really feel sorry for the guy who is spitting out teeth after throwing down the gloves and going at it? I see the Hockey ref's just watch these guys pound it out until they are done, then send them to the penalty box for 3 mins. MMA is a Fighting sport, and in fights people get hurt. Cantwell is a total deushbag and a classless loser, but I don't fault him for performing a textbook armbar. Corey Hill had a freak accident, but it could of been prevented with some shin conditioning, which any serious Muay Thai fighter works on constantly. Oh and since you're in Canada is there any way you can hook me up with some episodes of "trailer park boys" that is some very funny stuff!!!

About the Hockey comments, when a players breaks an arm in hockey its an accident, no one ever body checks someone, breaks their arm and then in the post game interview claims he wanted to do that for the longest time. And it may seems weird coming from a Canadian MMA fan, but I am 110% against fighting in hockey!. I think it should be banned from hockey. I love hockey, I love the nice plays, the nice passes, the body checks but fighting serves no purpose in the sport. It puts a team at a disadvantage, I don't know how many times I've seen my favorite team get scored on in a playoff game in a 5 on 4 powerplay because of two macho a**holes that had to fight for the crowd. Fighting, outside of a sanctioned MMA or boxing event is illegal, you cant fight in a baseball, football, soccer, basketball ect...


Okay now back to last night's fight card. Corey Hill did have a freak accident I understand that. I also understand that arms break in an arm bar, that's the move, its not meant to just hurt the guy it breaks arms. But the slow replay, the closeup, the fighter being proud of it, its hard to watch. I was alone watching it, but had friends that are not so much into MMA been watching with me, that would have been hard to defend. I really wish the ref could had stopped it a second before it was too late. For me fighting is a sport, but bones breaking on TV is not, I know its a part of fighting and bla bla bla, but I find bones breaking very disgusting.

I had a site that you could watch Tailor Park Boys on stream. I'll PM you if I can find it again.
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Last night's horrible accidents are a prime example of fighters that don't belong in the UFC fighting guys that do.

Al-Hassan or whatever was a freakin' idiot. His striking wasn't impressive, he gave Cantwell an armbar on a silver platter and didn't tap.

The guy Ben Saunders fought sucked ass as well. He didn't try ANYTHING to get out of the clinch. He just curled up like Ben would eventually stop and ate a lot more damage than was necessary.

And Corey Hill... Well, that was just a freak accident. It happens.

But I do wonder why UFC is actually going out of their way to promote these fights (putting the Hill fight up at UFC.com, showing the Saunders prelim instead of some other one)...

I don't care if they want to build guys up. No more weak guys should be allowed to fight in the UFC. Some one may REALLY get hurt (like paralyzed or die).
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I must say, when that guy said he was proud he broke the guy's arm and wanted to do that for the longest time, it did bother me. I understand that it can happen, like the Mir/Silvia fight. But the way it happened last night, and the comments really made me see MMA in a different light, I was so disgusted I din't even watched the main event, I went to bed after I saw Goulet lost(cheering for Canadians). And that Corey Hill thing was just gross. Today I find myself less interested in seeing UFC 92, maybe it will pass, we'll see.
What the F do think they want? They fight and train and fight and train to do just that. How is the guy supposed to feel? "Uh, well I held onto the arm as long as I could without breaking his arm and I feel just aweful that it snapped cause now he has to heal up and all. I don't know if I'll ever fight again cause I don't really want to hurt anyone."
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Nothing to be saddened about OP. All these injuries were purposely made for people to feel bad and donate more. And don't forget that health center or whatever they're trying to build is right there, very convenient for injured fighters to go get fixed. Everything's cool.
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[quote=70seven;734071] And it may seems weird coming from a Canadian MMA fan, but I am 110% against fighting in hockey!. I think it should be banned from hockey. I love hockey, I love the nice plays, the nice passes, the body checks but fighting serves no purpose in the sport. It puts a team at a disadvantage, I don't know how many times I've seen my favorite team get scored on in a playoff game in a 5 on 4 powerplay because of two macho a**holes that had to fight for the crowd. Fighting, outside of a sanctioned MMA or boxing event is illegal, you cant fight in a baseball, football, soccer, basketball ect...


Okay now back to last night's fight card. Corey Hill did have a freak accident I understand that. I also understand that arms break in an arm bar, that's the move, its not meant to just hurt the guy it breaks arms. But the slow replay, the closeup, the fighter being proud of it, its hard to watch. I was alone watching it, but had friends that are not so much into MMA been watching with me, that would have been hard to defend. I really wish the ref could had stopped it a second before it was too late. For me fighting is a sport, but bones breaking on TV is not, I know its a part of fighting and bla bla bla, but I find bones breaking very disgusting.[quote]

Dude, don't watch it then. MMA isn't for the squeemish.
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The sad part is that I didn't realize that it was the steve cantwell from wec, and bet a whole bunch of points on the can with the afro. As soon as I recognized cantwell, I was just like , "Oh crap", then I saw hassan come out with his chin out and his stance I was like, damn I'm an idiot.
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