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Old 11-04-2006, 03:14 PM   #51 (permalink)
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wow, i was wrong! my bad... i just had my facts crossed!

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It was YOU! Haha, I said earlier in this thread someone confused Anderson Silva with Jose Landi-Jons aka Pele. Carlos beat Pele in a awesome fight, Anderson and Pele look a lot alike and their fighting styles are very similar as well. Your point remains valid if Carlos can fight the same fight he fought with Pele. Pele's not a bad fighter at all, and he was kicking Carlos ass for most of the fight, then Carlos finally gets that armbar accomplished. It was a great ****in fight, Carlos can really take a hit.

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Old 11-04-2006, 03:18 PM   #52 (permalink)
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It was YOU! Haha, I said earlier in this thread someone confused Anderson Silva with Jose Landi-Jons aka Pele. Carlos beat Pele in a awesome fight, Anderson and Pele look a lot alike and their fighting styles are very similar as well. Your point remains valid if Carlos can fight the same fight he fought with Pele. Pele's not a bad fighter at all, and he was kicking Carlos ass for most of the fight, then Carlos finally gets that armbar accomplished. It was a great ****in fight, Carlos can really take a hit.

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Carlos Newton vs. Jose Landi-Jons part 1
Carlos Newton vs. Jose Landi-Jons part 2
yeah, i got landis and silva confused in my brain!!! lol


but i guess i was inadvertantly correct in what you're saying is true, that carlos would have some success against anderson because if anything pele is an even more brutal vale tudo veteran!!!
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yeah, i got landis and silva confused in my brain!!! lol


but i guess i was inadvertantly correct in what you're saying is true, that carlos would have some success against anderson because if anything pele is an even more brutal vale tudo veteran!!!
I think Anderson might have fought in vale tudo for a while too. I'm not positive about that though. Either way they are very very similar, and Carlos could do the same thing to Anderson if he wanted to. Pele looked to be very good on the ground, he escaped Carlos so many times it was crazy. Pele is also the guy who KOed Matt Hughes via knee to the head during a shoot. Maybe the UFC should bring Pele in to fight Anderson. How awesome would that fight be!?
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yeah, i got landis and silva confused in my brain!!! lol


but i guess i was inadvertantly correct in what you're saying is true, that carlos would have some success against anderson because if anything pele is an even more brutal vale tudo veteran!!!
anderson had a vicious ko over carlos newton. check out 5:49 on the hl.
YouTube - Anderson Silva Highlight by Stemerm

pele was silva's mentor, thats why they fight so similar, thats also why i think anderson would beat hughes if he moved up to 185.
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I think Anderson might have fought in vale tudo for a while too. I'm not positive about that though. Either way they are very very similar, and Carlos could do the same thing to Anderson if he wanted to. Pele looked to be very good on the ground, he escaped Carlos so many times it was crazy. Pele is also the guy who KOed Matt Hughes via knee to the head during a shoot. Maybe the UFC should bring Pele in to fight Anderson. How awesome would that fight be!?
i dont think pele would fight him , and vice versa. they were, and from what i hear are still very close. anderson left chute boxe because of rudimar not telling him that dana wanted him to come to the ufc before. i heard anderson still attends weddings and other gatherings with memebers of pele's team from chute boxe
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Exclamation Sylva is the man right now-no denying that!

I think its weak when people jump on the "band-wagon" but there's no doubt who the most dominating middle-weight is. Franklin was a great champ and may be once again. I highly doubt he has any chance against Sylva in a re-match. I predicted Sylva was going to beat Rich the first time they fought. Alot of people believe the UFC is superior to Pride when it comes to talent level. I am a big fan of UFC but I don't agree with that statement-Anderson Sylva case in point!!
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I think its weak when people jump on the "band-wagon" but there's no doubt who the most dominating middle-weight is. Franklin was a great champ and may be once again. I highly doubt he has any chance against Sylva in a re-match. I predicted Sylva was going to beat Rich the first time they fought. Alot of people believe the UFC is superior to Pride when it comes to talent level. I am a big fan of UFC but I don't agree with that statement-Anderson Sylva case in point!!
There is no bandwagon when it comes to MMA, football yes, MMA, no.

You cant jump on a bandwagon when you have conclusive evidence towards a fighters talents. Especially with guys like me and a lot others we're pissing their pants when the UFC signed this guy.

People just don't understand...this is a different kind of fighter the UFC has had in the past couple of years. All the praise Silva is getting he's done nothing but earned it, plain and simple, his UFC and past fights have shown he's a world class MMA fighter, I mean..people that use that "ohh you're just jumping on the bandwagon", are either

A. TUF2 Rich Franklin fans
B. TUF1 Chris Leben fans
C. UFC nuthuggers
D. All American boys that have something against foreign fighters

When fans actually have a knowledgable aspect towards the sport, there is no bandwagon.

Look at it this way, for the people using the "bandwagon" BS, a lot of people are still making excuses up the ass for Rich to this day, is that "still being on Richs bandwagon"? It definitely sounds like it.

Drop the bandwagon bullshit, and actually talk sensibly, wisely, and informative.

No one is saying Anderson Silva is unbeatable, not even hardcore fans, like someone said before anyone can be beaten, but you just have to read between the lines boys, Anderson Silva is the real deal, and he's going to stay. Yes, he'll walk through some guys they put in front of him. Yes, some will push him. But I'm telling you in my honest opinion I don't think anyone is going to be able to finish the guy at this point in his career.

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There is no bandwagon when it comes to MMA, football yes, MMA, no.

You cant jump on a bandwagon when you have conclusive evidence towards a fighters talents. Especially with guys like me and a lot others we're pissing their pants when the UFC signed this guy.

People just don't understand...this is a different kind of fighter the UFC has had in the past couple of years. All the praise Silva is getting he's done nothing but earned it, plain and simple, his UFC and past fights have shown he's a world class MMA fighter, I mean..people that use that "ohh you're just jumping on the bandwagon", are either

A. TUF2 Rich Franklin fans
B. TUF1 Chris Leben fans
C. UFC nuthuggers
D. All American boys that have something against foreign fighters

When fans actually have a knowledgable aspect towards the sport, there is no bandwagon.

Look at it this way, for the people using the "bandwagon" BS, a lot of people are still making excuses up the ass for Rich to this day, is that "still being on Richs bandwagon"? It definitely sounds like it.

Drop the bandwagon bullshit, and actually talk sensibly, wisely, and informative.

No one is saying Anderson Silva is unbeatable, not even hardcore fans, like someone said before anyone can be beaten, but you just have to read between the lines boys, Anderson Silva is the real deal, and he's going to stay. Yes, he'll walk through some guys they put in front of him. Yes, some will push him. But I'm telling you in my honest opinion I don't think anyone is going to be able to finish the guy at this point in his career.
I would have to say there is definitely a "bandwagon" in MMA and we saw it first hand with Anderson after he defeated Rich. Some people seemed to wrongly assume that everyone was going to be defeated the way Leben and Franklin were ... easily and falling prey to a striking game. I don't think people are going to fight Anderson in his world very much longer although with his level of skill he will likely impose it on others (striking). Fighters who have had better success against Silva have been the ones to take him down and work from there.

And .. i have ALWAYS agreed with your sentiments in your final paragraph about him being the real deal and holding on to the title for some time ... I just seem to have a bit more faith in some of the abilities of the UFCers to push the action a bit more ... I think you may have softened your stance a bit too
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There is no bandwagon when it comes to MMA, football yes, MMA, no.

You cant jump on a bandwagon when you have conclusive evidence towards a fighters talents. Especially with guys like me and a lot others we're pissing their pants when the UFC signed this guy.

People just don't understand...this is a different kind of fighter the UFC has had in the past couple of years. All the praise Silva is getting he's done nothing but earned it, plain and simple, his UFC and past fights have shown he's a world class MMA fighter, I mean..people that use that "ohh you're just jumping on the bandwagon", are either

A. TUF2 Rich Franklin fans
B. TUF1 Chris Leben fans
C. UFC nuthuggers
D. All American boys that have something against foreign fighters

When fans actually have a knowledgable aspect towards the sport, there is no bandwagon.

Look at it this way, for the people using the "bandwagon" BS, a lot of people are still making excuses up the ass for Rich to this day, is that "still being on Richs bandwagon"? It definitely sounds like it.

Drop the bandwagon bullshit, and actually talk sensibly, wisely, and informative.

No one is saying Anderson Silva is unbeatable, not even hardcore fans, like someone said before anyone can be beaten, but you just have to read between the lines boys, Anderson Silva is the real deal, and he's going to stay. Yes, he'll walk through some guys they put in front of him. Yes, some will push him. But I'm telling you in my honest opinion I don't think anyone is going to be able to finish the guy at this point in his career.
Dude why don't you slow your chuckwagon down and re-read my thread! Did I say every fan of Sylva's is on his bandwagon-no! I believe your getting caught up in your own little world, you have a lot to say, but your response doesn't make any d@mn sense! If you can't understand my simple statement then try and read "slickFugitive's" he has some words for you to!!
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Dude why don't you slow your chuckwagon down and re-read my thread! Did I say every fan of Sylva's is on his bandwagon-no! I believe your getting caught up in your own little world, you have a lot to say, but your response doesn't make any d@mn sense! If you can't understand my simple statement then try and read "slickFugitive's" he has some words for you to!!
I know you didn't say that, and I didnt mean ALL of Silvas fans are, but I'm you sure were implying to some of the guys on here, and to be honest, I havent seen many people that dont know about MMA that are saying Silva is the greatest middleweight of all time. My statement doesn't make sense? Was that post under your required character limit for reading? I wouldn't want to challenge your autistic-like attention span.

Yes, unlike you, Slick isn't freaking out, and we've been actually discussing sensibly, me and Slick are on the same terms. I've said before that I know Silva would completely own everyone they put in front of him, but he will with some, and others he wont, it's just inevitable. Did you get that STONE? Can you comprehend that?
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