Originally Posted by famoussd
Why all the love for Machida? Who exactly has he beaten that's top 10 in the LHW division?
Tito Ortiz = no
Sokoudjou = no
Heath = no
Sam Hoger = no
Tito, WHEN he was defeated, had to be top 10 or very close.
Other than that, that is completly fair.
I have no idea why people say Machida deserves a title shot, EVEN if we just look on paper rather than how he wins.
I made a similar post before, but i will do it again.
Lets look at the former LHW title holders and what they had before a title shot.
Ill start with Rampage, because before that, there was no real question on if a title shot was worthy or not..but you can just look, its obvious anyways.
Rampage : he fought EVERYBODY in Pride before joining the ufc, and was given a warm up fight before his title shot. Himself asked for more fights but Dana wanted to throw him at Chuck right away(for more or less fair reasons). I do not believe he shoved anybody aside by taking that title shot, there was not anybody close to being able to call themselves a title contender.
Dan Henderson : He was the current Pride LHW AND MW champion, making him a very respected fighter. He fought with the best, did not always win, but his win against Wanderlei(AT THE TIME) was something phenomenal and was very promising for Dan.(He did put up a fight anyways)
Griffin : Having a very good record, except a controversial lost to Tito and a devasting TKO to Jardine, he defeated Shogun, who was, AT THE TIME, considered by so many the #1 fighter at LHW in the world(and even P4P), his title shot was deserved based on that last win.
Rashad Evans : Undefeated, like Machida,he actually had less 'big names' under his belt than Machida(even tho the ones Machida has were 5 years ago or so), but his KO over a legend like Chuck, who, if i remember, never had been KOed completly hard by a strike standing, simply puts him up for a title shot. Besides, nobody was in position to get a title shot anyways. Rampage had to fight somebody before getting a rematch for the title, Silva just had 1 win over Jardine, Rua didnt fight yet, Machida getting a title shot after defeating Ortiz would make no sense, so an undefeated Rashad who KTFO Chuck can get a title shot..
Now, how is Machida's win any close to anything mentionned above? Even if he destroys Silva with a spinning elbow, he doesnt deserve a title shot based on his record.. being undefeated is great, if you can beat more than 1 very close to not top 10 guy.. and Thiago Silva is probably #10 or less in the top LHW division.
There is no way Machida is being 'pushed aside' because his fighting style is not fun for some people, or because he isnt marketable. He simply is not there yet.
After he beats Machida, give him a guy like Rashad, or Griffin, and then he can talk about a title shot.