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12-24-2008, 06:03 PM
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LEGEN...wait for it...DARY
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Originally Posted by God
Mir is 1000 times the athlete that Nog is...I created him specifically for this match-up
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12-24-2008, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ZZtigerZZ81
There ya go...direct from the source
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Yeah.. Nog is in some serious trouble here. Mir is one hell of an athlete.
Nog beat him in soccer, but this is the UFC, no soccer kicks here.
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12-24-2008, 06:36 PM
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All Around Nice Guy
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I dont buy that nog is better then vinny in a pure jiu jitsu match. This guy obviously has something against vinny... maybe vinny subd him so now his butt hurt?? i dunno but vinny would school nog in a pure jiu jitsu match.
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12-24-2008, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SideWays222
I dont buy that nog is better then vinny in a pure jiu jitsu match. This guy obviously has something against vinny... maybe vinny subd him so now his butt hurt?? i dunno but vinny would school nog in a pure jiu jitsu match.
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Haha. Yeah I thought that he sounded a bit defensive in that interview. Really, who cares if some young guy is running his mouth a bit? If he was really that good, then he wouldn't feel so threatened by vinny talking trash.
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12-24-2008, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by joppp
Interesting... I've always secretly been afraid that Nogs BJJ is not that good compared to a lot of new black belts. This is really a relief, hearing something like this from someone like Valverde.
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Its like Bravo or Drysdale talking about Mir's bjj`, doubt either has much if any personal experience at all about Nog's bjj either. I would be shocked if Valverde would have said that either Mir or Vinny has better bjj than Nog does, bit too biased opinion to take seriously.
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Originally Posted by randyspankstito
Haha. Yeah I thought that he sounded a bit defensive in that interview. Really, who cares if some young guy is running his mouth a bit? If he was really that good, then he wouldn't feel so threatened by vinny talking trash.
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Ya Exactly. Ok Vinny talked some trash too, but as we have no actual video data of Valverde vs. Vinny or Nog vs. Vinny rolling against each other all we have is 2 young cocky'ish guys smacktalking.
I believe Nog's bjj and cardio are better than Mir's if that is actually shown in their fight. I couldn't really care less how high their friends rate their skills, because those are way too biased opinions and they got quite different styles on mma bjj anyway. Neither have any huge success on pure (gi or no-gi) bjj competions either, and both have alot of impressive submission wins. ^^
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12-24-2008, 07:36 PM
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Be that as it may, but from what Valverde said I gather Noguaira at least manages to submit him in practice, which at least tells me his jitz is still in some sort of shape.
From what I've seen in videos Nog never uses a lot of his strength when rolling with people, he seems very laid back and relaxed when doing it, not at all insisting on submissions or positions. That may be a cause for people at TUF saying his jiu jutsu is not that good.
Plus, Mir has said that Nog has probably got better jitz than him. And I'll have to agree: Mir's guard against Lesnar (exept the exellent kneebar) was terrible!
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12-25-2008, 12:21 AM
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Doobie Doobie Doo...how's your Bud Ice?
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Anyone know where Nog received his Black Belt or training from?
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12-25-2008, 12:50 AM
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Das Übermensch
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Anyone know where Nog received his Black Belt or training from?
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Pretty sure he's a black belt under De La Riva, and received it when he was 23.
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12-25-2008, 01:17 AM
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Yeah, he's a black-belt under Ricardo de la Riva Goded, who is a pretty damn decorated BJJ practitioner.
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12-25-2008, 01:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Carson
Yeah.. Nog is in some serious trouble here. Mir is one hell of an athlete.
Nog beat him in soccer, but this is the UFC, no soccer kicks here.
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But if Nog subs him out it is because it is 'Nog's national sport'. IF nog was as good as he is now from any other country in the world he would lose
So while Mir may be 200x the athlete Nog is
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