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post #21 of 70 (permalink) Old 12-24-2008, 05:48 PM
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Chris Lytle: Even (if) Mir claims to be stronger, more athletic, can jump higher, had a better GPA or whatever, I don't think he can fight better. Iíll go with Nog.
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Coming from a mutual point of view.

Mir os a good fighter but I seriously don't see how Mir can win unless he gets a lucky KO or Sub which I don't think will happen versus Nog.

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I dont see why everyone is so stuck on Nogs BJJ being so good, his BJJ is very solid in the way its applied but Nogs BJJ is limmited in that its very basic, Mir has way more tools in his BJJ tool box than Nog does even if Nog does have higher quality.
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I dont see why everyone is so stuck on Nogs BJJ being so good, his BJJ is very solid in the way its applied but Nogs BJJ is limmited in that its very basic, Mir has way more tools in his BJJ tool box than Nog does even if Nog does have higher quality.
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Uh, definitely not. And saying his Bjj is limited because it's very basic is a stupid statement, and also a wrong one. You really think Nog doesn't know how to do tricky Bjj moves? You think he got promoted to black and only learned how to do an arm-bar and triangle?




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I dont see why everyone is so stuck on Nogs BJJ being so good, his BJJ is very solid in the way its applied but Nogs BJJ is limmited in that its very basic, Mir has way more tools in his BJJ tool box than Nog does even if Nog does have higher quality.
Nogs BJJ = Mirs BJJ, Yeah I said it.
He has expert basics, I defiantly would say he knows advanced BJJ as well just that he knows he basics extremely well which is a superb foundation to have.

Mir seems to have more gaps in his ground game then Nog, obviously both are extremely skilled.
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Uh, definitely not. And saying his Bjj is limited because it's very basic is a stupid statement, and also a wrong one. You really think Nog doesn't know how to do tricky Bjj moves? You think he got promoted to black and only learned how to do an arm-bar and triangle?
so True I mean Nog is a legit black belt and that alone says he knows more than just basic moves. I am positive Nog can do a flying armbar or gogo if he wanted to but whats the point if he can just as easily win by armbar and triangle.I also dont know what makes mir's bjj so tricky and fantastic I mean who has he subbed that is a good grappler? Roberto Traven that is it and that was also years ago.

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Uh, definitely not. And saying his Bjj is limited because it's very basic is a stupid statement, and also a wrong one. You really think Nog doesn't know how to do tricky Bjj moves? You think he got promoted to black and only learned how to do an arm-bar and triangle?
He may know more but Nog has not shown a lot of diversity in his BJJ or at least I dont believe as much as Mir, dont jump down my throat here, do I think Nog doesnt know how to do tricky BJJ moves? Again I think Mir knows how to do way more, he may not do the moves they both do as good as Nog but he does use more, Im merely trying to point out that Mir is more advanced as far as there repatoirs go, Nog is just more technically sound. I think Mir has very underated BJJ skills and I think Nog may be somewhat overated. Im not calling Mir to win but I definatly wouldnt be even slightly surprised if he subbed Nog.




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He may know more but Nog has not shown a lot of diversity in his BJJ or at least I dont believe as much as Mir, dont jump down my throat here, do I think Nog doesnt know how to do tricky BJJ moves? Again I think Mir knows how to do way more, he may not do the moves they both do as good as Nog but he does use more, Im merely trying to point out that Mir is more advanced as far as there repatoirs go, Nog is just more technically sound. I think Mir has very underated BJJ skills and I think Nog may be somewhat overated. Im not calling Mir to win but I definatly wouldnt be even slightly surprised if he subbed Nog.
No. You don't know what you're talking about. Saying Mir is more advanced than Nog at Bjj is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. Even Mir admits Nog is ahead of him on the ground.




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I picked Nog as well. And man am I glad to see him fight again, it's been too long!
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