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post #11 of 37 (permalink) Old 12-25-2008, 02:24 PM
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Maia is the second best BJJ practioner in the world so that probably answers the quesion...
Well that's debatable.

He's definitely the best in the UFC, but Roger Gracie and Marcelo Garcia are 1 and 2 for me.

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Fedor vs. Andrei Arlovski - DEMOLISHED

hmmmmm, i wonder how many become reality..

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bisping definetly nobody has passed his gaurd yet....am I going to get slated again lol
That was a joke by the way, I would say mmmmmmmmm BJ Penn or anderson Silva and that is a fight Id love to see
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a silvas bjj is no where near bj's or maias
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Chieck Kongo has some nice arm bar attempts. If Kongo wasent around though i would have to say Maia.
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u guys are forgeting andy wang
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alberto crane if he's still in UFC ,looked like he had sum good BJJ
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Well that's debatable.

He's definitely the best in the UFC, but Roger Gracie and Marcelo Garcia are 1 and 2 for me.
Roger is probably behind Garcia Maia Jacare IMO. And I heard a rumor that Maia never lost a BJJ match except to Gacrica, not sure about it's validity but honestly he is better then Gracie.

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I would put Jacare, Marcelo Garcia, and Roger Gracie above Maia for sure. If you look at straight up accomplishments, there are a handful of guys who have done more than Maia as well. Maia also won ADCC the year that Jacare didn't compete, and has not done as well in the absolute divisions as others. He also hasn't done as well in the Mundials.

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ADCC World Submission Wrestling Championships

ADCC 2007
Superfight championship: Defeated Jon Olav Einemo.

ADCC 2005
88 - 98kg: 1st Place
Openweight: 1st Place

ADCC 2003
88 - 98kg: 3rd Place

Record of opponents:

*Won: Justin Garcia (sub), Eduardo Telles (sub), Xande Ribeiro (sub), Alexandre Ferreira 'Cacareco' (sub), Shinya Aoki (toe hold), Fabricio Werdum (sub), Xande Ribeiro (sub), Ronaldo 'Jacare' Souza (Rear Naked Choke), Mario Sperry, Rigan Machado, Xande Ribeiro, Jan Olav Einemo. (pts)

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ADCC 2007
66-76kg: 1st Place
Openweight: 2nd Place

ADCC 2005
66-76kg: 1st Place
Openweight: 3rd Place

ADCC 2003
66-76kg: 1st Place
Openweight: Quarter finals

Record of opponents:

Won: Chris Brennan, Shinja Aoki (Rear Naked Choke), Leo Santos, Pablo Popovitch, Ricco Rodriguez (sub), Diego Sanchez (Armbar), Xande Ribeiro (sub), Kiuma Kunioku, Renzo Gracie (pts), Vitor 'Shaolin' Ribeiro (Rear Naked Choke), Otto Olson , Mike Van Arsdale (sub), George Sotiropoulos (sub), Kurt Pellegrino (sub), Mike Fowler (sub), Pablo Popovich (sub), Mario Miranda (sub), Rolles Gracie (arm attack?), Alexandre 'Cacareco' Ferreira (Rear Naked Choke).

Lost: Ronaldo 'Jacare' Souza (Kimura), Marcio 'Pe De Pano' Cruz, Robert Drysdale (Anaconda Choke)
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ADCC World Submission Wrestling Championships

ADCC 2005
77 - 87kg: 1st Place
Openweight: 2nd Place

ADCC 2003
77 - 87kg: 2nd Place

ADCC 2003 Brazilian Qualifiers
77 - 87kg: 1st Place

Record of opponents:

*Won: David Belkheiden, Robert Sulski, Dennis Hallman, Demain Maia, David Avellan (6-0), Alexandre Ferreira 'Cacareco', Marcelo Garcia (Kimura), Ryan Gracie , Matt Lindland, Ricardo Cachorrao,

*Lost: Roger Gracie (Rear Naked Choke,) Saulo Ribeiro.
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I would say BJ Penn has the best guard but all around BJJ I'd say either Maia or possibly Ricardo Almedia, I would love to see Almedia/Maia just to answer the question once and for all, who ever said Anderson Silva is dreaming Anderson isnt even in the top 3 in the MW division.




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