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Old 12-25-2008, 06:03 PM   #31 (permalink)
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im not looking past Nog.
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Old 12-25-2008, 06:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 12-25-2008, 08:24 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Roger, Garcia, Jacare before Maia.

Jacare beat Maia at ADCC, which is pretty much No Gi BJJ.

Honestly, he is not better than Roger.
Did he? I've never seen that fight before, how did he beat him? Regardless, Maia did beat Jacare in the Mundials which is 'pure' BJJ - but the fight was ridiculously close, which showed you can't really place one above the other.
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Old 12-25-2008, 09:36 PM   #34 (permalink)
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That is such a gross underestimation of Nogueira, you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that, especially seeing as Jason MacDonald made it to the third round with Maia in a total ground war.
OK maybe I overestimated saying in MMA, but if he was on top he would probably pass Nog's guard really quick and demolish. People severly overrate Nog's pure BJJ, I can think of atleast so many people that would make him look like a child on the floor. Hell he gets subbed by Palhares.

And sorry F>A, Jason only survived for a few rounds. He never did anything legitamately offensive on the ground. Hell it was practically over in the first 30 seconds of the fight.
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:36 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Definately Maia.I'm not sure about MMA BJJ this and that but Maia subs guys in MMA with ease so...
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Old 12-26-2008, 12:08 AM   #36 (permalink)
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OK maybe I overestimated saying in MMA, but if he was on top he would probably pass Nog's guard really quick and demolish. People severly overrate Nog's pure BJJ, I can think of atleast so many people that would make him look like a child on the floor. Hell he gets subbed by Palhares.
Now you're just being silly, IMO.

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And sorry F>A, Jason only survived for a few rounds. He never did anything legitamately offensive on the ground. Hell it was practically over in the first 30 seconds of the fight.
Regardless of whether he never did anything offensive, he defended the offensive onslaught of Maia for 2 full rounds which is 10 minutes. You said Nogueira wouldn't even last 5 minutes and his MMA-BJJ is light years better than MacDonald's. Really, try considering what you're about to say before saying it.
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Old 12-26-2008, 12:10 AM   #37 (permalink)
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