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Old 12-26-2008, 04:02 PM   #11 (permalink)

 
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Well diffrent opinions then bail3yz when the odds are pretty even and I put the fight at 50/50 thats a bet I wont touch, I bet when I think there is an underdog who is a substantial favorite IMO.
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Old 12-26-2008, 04:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Well diffrent opinions then bail3yz when the odds are pretty even and I put the fight at 50/50 thats a bet I wont touch, I bet when I think there is an underdog who is a substantial favorite IMO.
Understandable, most people are like that. I have a large bankroll, so I can withstand the swings by betting on small equity situations, and since there arent that many BIG equity situations (ie efrain vs nover) I take any equity I can get.. profit is profit just need a large bankroll. Also you have to have the right mindset, and not worry about losing.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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lol yeh the 'lockdown' title is more of catchphrase to make it sound cool...it's mma, you can't 'lock' anything

i personally don't see the rampage fight 50/50 and I think after the fight alot of people will regret predicting it being that close...I see Rampage beating Wanderlei and looking dominant while doing so

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I bet on Rashad @ +115 (I think it was +115.. too lazy to check)
Rampage @ +110
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I don't have any hard cash on Pat Barry at all ATM...I'm at home in the boondocks and have dialup and haven't got the chance to make any more bets...

I wanted to wait and see how Frank Mir looked at the weighin...I doubt I'll be taking him, but if he looks in the best shape of his life, I'll toss a value bet down on him...

at this point I have Rampage and Rashad combo'd...I got Rashad at +115 and Rampage sadly at -110....I anticipated Rampage losing value, which didn't happen..
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lol yeh the 'lockdown' title is more of catchphrase to make it sound cool...it's mma, you can't 'lock' anything

i personally don't see the rampage fight 50/50 and I think after the fight alot of people will regret predicting it being that close...I see Rampage beating Wanderlei and looking dominant while doing so



I don't have any hard cash on Pat Barry at all ATM...I'm at home in the boondocks and have dialup and haven't got the chance to make any more bets...

I wanted to wait and see how Frank Mir looked at the weighin...I doubt I'll be taking him, but if he looks in the best shape of his life, I'll toss a value bet down on him...

at this point I have Rampage and Rashad combo'd...I got Rashad at +115 and Rampage sadly at -110....I anticipated Rampage losing value, which didn't happen..
Ya, I agree I see rampage winning this fight np too.. so I have him at a much bigger favorite then 50/50.. but I was just saying for the people that think its 50/50.. betting on the underdog is still profitable in that case
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Old 12-27-2008, 03:36 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Ive never heard of a fighter getting KO'd by the same fighter twice then beating him in the 3rd meeting. Say what you want but I truly believe Rampage is afraid of Wanderlei. Once he starts to get hit and Wand gets that clinch, he is going to wilt.
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Ive never heard of a fighter getting KO'd by the same fighter twice then beating him in the 3rd meeting. Say what you want but I truly believe Rampage is afraid of Wanderlei. Once he starts to get hit and Wand gets that clinch, he is going to wilt.
Eh, just because we've never seen it before doesn't mean it can't happen. Steve Cantwell got KTFO by Brian Stann, then returned the favor in the rematch because he adjusted his striking and gameplan. Slight variations in Rampage's skillset over the last four years makes this match-up harder to predict.
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Old 12-27-2008, 03:49 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Eh, just because we've never seen it before doesn't mean it can't happen. Steve Cantwell got KTFO by Brian Stann, then returned the favor in the rematch because he adjusted his striking and gameplan. Slight variations in Rampage's skillset over the last four years makes this match-up harder to predict.
Not saying it couldnt happen, but I wouldnt bet on Rampage at +105. Even Juanito doesnt think Rampage is ready for this fight. After such a tough loss and what he went through mentally, Wanderlei is the last guy on the planet he should be fighting. I would have to be getting at least 2/1 odds to even think of betting on QJ.
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:58 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Not saying it couldnt happen, but I wouldnt bet on Rampage at +105. Even Juanito doesnt think Rampage is ready for this fight. After such a tough loss and what he went through mentally, Wanderlei is the last guy on the planet he should be fighting. I would have to be getting at least 2/1 odds to even think of betting on QJ.
rewind a couple of months in theory...lets just say rampage still lost to forrest, but instead of wanderlei beating jardine, jardine got hurt b4 the fight and it never happened...so wanderlei is going into this fight 0-3 and rampage coming off his loss to forrest? would u still feel the same? i realize your going to protect your answer regardless but i'm just tossing it out there

i think people are looking way too much into this mental breakdown...that was 5, 6 months ago and he's got a whole new set of teamates to set him straight...mentally, he's ready...

the jardine victory seems to have given wanderlei alot of confidence...maybe too much for a guy that's 1-3....yes his last fight was awesome but that was only 40 seconds of action, and it doesn't tell us alot about wanderlei's skillset aside from he has power and is a finisher...we knew that already
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Honestly Wanderlei is Wanderlei he showed us everything he is against Jardine even though it was only 40 seconds.

Now If Rampage can take him down quickly in every round this is a smart bet however that's not a gurantee something being overlooked is Wandy has better training partners now then before (I almost cried while typing that). At Chute Boxe he trained with a bunch of guys who fought the same way and I love Chute Boxe but basically they all have the same style.

At Xtreme Couture and his own gym he trains with excellent BJJ guys very good strikers and most importantly strong wrestlers.


I think this fight is a coin flip because standing Wandy is a wild guy who can get dropped as often as he drops his opponents I mean he has been rocked by some horrible fighters.

But I think putting money on Rampage isn't a good idea because this fight is too hard to call.

BTW bail3yz I'm gonna tell you what I told Aarony before UFC 16 don't bet against Jersey it doesn't turn out well.
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Old 12-27-2008, 12:36 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Pat has some brutal leg kicks. I'm looking forward to seeing them.
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