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Old 01-02-2009, 12:48 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I think alot of people are underestimating Aoki in this fight. Its true BJ has a huge advantage in the stand up but I think Aoki would eventually find a way to pull out a submission.
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Old 01-02-2009, 12:59 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Aoki does not submit Penn, it just doesn't happen. He could perhaps work position for a decision win, but i don't see him submitting BJ.

It's not nuthuggery (god can we PLEASE ban that word?!) to think that BJ would win, i think he would. I think he's a better fighter on the feet and probably better on the ground too, but id want to see them go at it before i cemented the latter part of that opinion.
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I really don't think you can bring up the loss to Hansen as proof positive for anything. The circumstances surrounding it take away some of its legitimacy IMO.
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:01 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I hate how fast people jump on and off Bandwagons, Before the JZ fight most people didnt even know Aoki, then he wins, he is one of the best in the world, loses to Hansen, he isnt really that good, most people didnt even give him a chance against Alvarez, Wins, now he is one of the best in the world again. But i suppose thats the way it is.

I dont think BJ would leave the UFC, the competiton is relatively same if not worse IMO, Aoki is about on the same level as Florian and Sherk is better than everyone. Griffin, Edgar and few others are bout the on same level as Alvarez and Hansen.
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:10 PM   #35 (permalink)
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But but....he fights in the strange and magical land known as Japan, so that makes him better!!!
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:33 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Or, he fights quality competition.
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:39 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Submitting Alvarez and submitting BJ Penn are totally different. I honestly wouldnt be surprised if BJ used his better wrestling and sick top game to pound on Aoki, mount him, then choke him out.

I dont see anyway Aoki wins a decision against BJ. Literally his only shot would be a leg lock. When it comes to straight grappling, BJ has the better credentials. Id would love to see this fight hit the mat. Because if it did, it would be with BJ on top and that would be terrible for Aoki.

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Get's KO'd by better competition.
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:44 PM   #38 (permalink)
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If this fight were to happen I think it would rip a hole in the space time continuum. I think BJ would win and like usual I agree with Flak's post. I don't think it's nuthuggery and I DO think it would be an extremely close fight but BJ is just bigger stronger and better in most aspects. This is a dream fight between 2 of my top 3 favorite fighters. Just thinking about it makes my penis tingle.
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:45 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Or, he fights quality competition.
Didn't you know plazz, just because guys like Mirko and Shogun couldn't get in shape to fight in the UFC, Japan is filled with nothing but cans, nevermind that JZ, Alvarez and Uno were top LW's when Aoki beat them. Aoki beat them in Japan, so that means that they are irrelevant. You have to beat dudes in a cage in Vegas to get mega props, you know?

That Shinya Aoki, he's so overrated, what with him tapping these top LW's that many favored over him. Also, now that Aoki beat guys like JZ, they're overrated and were never that good to begin with. But Jens Pulver, man, he's still a top 155'er. Also, didn't you see when Hansen destroyed Aoki? man, Aoki sucks, how dare he lose when he just went 15 against a seriously tough fighter while Joachim went 2 minutes against someone who thinks an armbar is something made by Nestle.
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:48 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I was going to respond to this but Damone basically read my mind and wrote my response.
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