Originally Posted by name goes here
As far as I can see your not telling me that these things didn't happen though, but that they are just not a big deal.
I don't say this for some hate of Hughes, or Christians or Americans or whatever, but simply that these facts as they stand are douchey. It's not double standards, I just don't know what others have done. And some things just seem worse than others, like kicking a cat is worse than kicking a full grown man: Hughes beating a guy after crashing his party, is worse than Alex being involved in inter-gang violence.
What shit have I done? I have been and still am a greedy lazy selfish bastard - but I don't go around bullying people, which is what these actions sound like. I can only imagine you're making excuses for Hughes because you've done similar - if you don't want to say so then you do actually think these are douchey activities and are just arguing otherwise out of some idea that those saying so are being smug
Have you felt up a 13yr old as an 18 yr old?
Have you been part of a drunken idea that got people killed?
Have you beaten up your dad?
Have you beaten up a guy at his party you weren't invited to?
Am I smug for saying these are the actions of a douche? (Xitup is smug
- but I am just someone who takes the internet literally)
Yes of course I've done similar. Lots of people have. That's my whole point LOL. Have I felt up a 13 year old girl when I was 18? No but neither has Matt. Have I been part of a drunken idea that got people killed? No but I don't understand why you keep bringing that up it wasn't Matt's fault in any way shape or form and he even tried talking them out of it. Have I beaten up my dad? No but I wish I would have a few times, alot of my friends have gotten in fights with their dads, you act like his dad was innocent. Have a beaten up a guy at a party...? No but I love how you keep leaving out details to fit your point of view.
Mark was the perv, not Matt. No need to bring it up.
Matt had nothing to do with his friends dying. No need to bring it up.
Matt's dad wasn't innocent and probably deserved it, maybe not at that moment but obviously he did something to make them snap, and it's not even a big deal that it happened, 15 yeras ago mind you. No need to bring it up.
Fights happen at college parties all the time. Yea he's a douche for doing it but it's not like he did it for no reason at all, the guy did some stuff to piss him off. They were drunk. This one is probably the only understandable one, except for the fact that it happened 15 years ago.
I've done WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse that Hughes has. I mean WAY worse, not even comparable. And so have tons of others. Hate on him for his present D-baggetry, I know I do sometimes, but it makes no sense to hold him accountable for things he did 15-20 years ago, especially when you don't even have your facts straight.
Originally Posted by americanfighter
If he is this much of a jerk then I just cant understand how a great guy like rich franklin can call him a good friend
I have friends who are jerks, and I am known in my circle of friends as being the nice guy. I don't approve of my friends being jerks, but as long as they stay cool with me and my friends I am cool with them.
Originally Posted by IDL
Like killing a bear with a knife? Yeah that's pretty bad ass
But yeah, I agree there must be something else besides Hughes actions that make people dislike him. His stereotype could be the factor
Did Aleks do that? If so that's ****in beastly and definately badass, and good point about the stereotype thing.
I honestly don't know why my posts end up so long. Sorry I guess
PS the thing that set me off in this thread was the people who still had respect or were fans of Hughes started saying things like "after reading that summary I lost all respect for him" or "I wanna beat his face with a baseball bat" or "I wanna kill him and pick his brains out and **** his wife in the street" (not kidding). I just think it's unfair that someone can post that bullshit summary and Matt loses fans over it, it's just kinda ****ed up to me.