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post #21 of 35 (permalink) Old 01-05-2009, 04:34 PM
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Actually the old Cro Cop is still alive and well...he is just irrelevant because that one weapon (left leg) is not enough for today's fighter.

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Just check the way he deformed Josh Barnett in PRIDE final 2006 - basically solely with hand punches, from boxing to hammering his head. It was a long torture.
He even made him his bitch during the course of fight

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i think overeem vs kongo would be the perfect matchup. someones walkin out neutered
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This Overeem stuff is getting old. Overeem is juiced to the gills. If Overeem is fighting a drug free fighter, it's not a fair fight. Put Cro Cop on 2 grams of test per week and 500mgs of deca per week along with HGH and let Cro Cop fight Overeem.

Cro Cop would destroy Overeem.

Overeem is on the sauce. Cro Cop isn't. It's not a level playing field. If Overeem goes to The UFC he will not do well. He will be like all the other Pride fighters that went to the UFC.

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Crocop had way more in his arsenal than just a LHK back in the day. Excellent footwork, great boxing and nice elusiveness made him the most dangerous striker in MMA. Not to mention his TDD which some people were calling the best in the sport only a few years ago.

Yeah Crocop's not really a good fighter anymore but there's no way that MMA has advanced that much that the Crocop of 05/06 couldn't still be a dominant force at HW IMO.
Yeah...he still has all that...it just isn't as great compared to the better more developed competition. His TDD and elusiveness are pretty much hand-in-hand as the latter really aided in the former. But I was clearly exaggerating when I said "all he had was a LHK"...but he only had striking. Fighters that are that 1-d have been exposed of late (i.e. Chuck, Wand, Sylvia, Nog, Tito etc.)

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Just check the way he deformed Josh Barnett in PRIDE final 2006 - basically solely with hand punches, from boxing to hammering his head. It was a long torture.
He even made him his bitch during the course of fight .
I love Barnett, but did you really just bring him up as evidence of someone's striking superiority? Are you *****n serious? This guy got TKO'd by Couture, thoroughly exposed by Rizzo, got worked over by Nog in their rmost recent fight, looked outclassed by Aleksander in their bout...and just about anyone with any ability on their feet. I think that is hilarious that you use that to point out Crocop's superiority.

Maybe a Tito fan can use the domination of Ken Shamrock to highlight how dominating Tito is. Since Ken is just as bad everywhere as Barnett was on his feet back in 2006.



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This Overeem stuff is getting old. Overeem is juiced to the gills. If Overeem is fighting a drug free fighter, it's not a fair fight. Put Cro Cop on 2 grams of test per week and 500mgs of deca per week along with HGH and let Cro Cop fight Overeem.

Cro Cop would destroy Overeem.

Overeem is on the sauce. Cro Cop isn't. It's not a level playing field. If Overeem goes to The UFC he will not do well. He will be like all the other Pride fighters that went to the UFC.
And since we are throwing out stuff with no proof, you're gay.

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This Overeem stuff is getting old. Overeem is juiced to the gills.
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Why? Overreem has skills..No doubt..But the dude is Juicing!! They don't test over there in Japan and he just put on 20lbs of pure muscle....and CroCop never had what it took to fight in the UFC anyways..IMO

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The kind of weight gain we've seen in Overeem is very suspect.

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hilarious that you use that to point out Crocop's superiority..
Superiority? I was just pointing out your "he has ONLY one weapon (left leg)" with merely an example on how good CC's OTHER weapons, such as hand strikes and boxing, are. And Barnett is no can, regardless of some of his recent losses. He was very dangerous at that particular tournament untill he met CC.
Here's a video of that fight (around 1:00 min, and 1:45 min) and say again CC has ONLY one weapon and which one finished Josh.

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Call me an Overeem nut hugger, but if he's not juicing and he's that big on work ethic, then in the UFC he'll be unstoppable.

I wouldn't even bet on the fight if he fought Fedor. He's THAT good.


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The kind of weight gain we've seen in Overeem is very suspect.
Not really, he's a tall guy with a big frame who went up from LHW, it's not that strange.
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