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Old 01-06-2009, 12:06 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Yeah Overeem was always a really big 205er and it was clear he could bulk up if he wanted to.

Yeah it's kinda suspiscious how big he's got so quick but I son't accuse people of stuff without proof. And TBH even if he is on roids he aint doing anything wrong cos they're not banned where he's fighting.
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Old 01-06-2009, 01:45 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Superiority? I was just pointing out your "he has ONLY one weapon (left leg)" with merely an example on how good CC's OTHER weapons, such as hand strikes and boxing, are. And Barnett is no can, regardless of some of his recent losses. He was very dangerous at that particular tournament untill he met CC.
Here's a video of that fight (around 1:00 min, and 1:45 min) and say again CC has ONLY one weapon and which one finished Josh.
You clearly don't understand what I am saying. Let me re-state it. Cro Cop had one weapon that people had problems stopping. Was he a great kickboxer? Hell yeah, but this sport is MMA and has truly become that in the last few years much more so then it was. My statement that CroCop had only one weapon was an obvious exaggeration which I already pointed out. But when trying to "prove" that he did have more then one weapon, one should not bring Barnett into the conversation as it applies to stand-up fighting. Because as Barnett may be a top 5 HW overall aat this time, he has always had terrible hands and gets handled quite easily by those that do. So, that was my point in bringing up your ridiculousness of mentioning the Barnett fight from 2006.

I thought Barnett woud win that, had I known that was going to be his strategy though, I wouldn't have felt that way.

Oh BTW...I don't need your links to fights...I have seen all the pride fights. Why don't we bring up his fight with Silva or did we not mention that because Silva is way overrated on the feet and has always gotten beat by more technical strikers?
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Old 01-06-2009, 01:49 PM   #33 (permalink)
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That's true. If they're not banned, then i don't blame him. I'm sure he could eventually get that big, but the way he did it so quickly has raised more than just my eyebrows.

I do think he's on PEDs, but i have no proof, so it remains a fairly quiet opinion of mine. Then again, i think many many professional athletes across most sports are doping....but that's a whole nother argument.
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:19 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I have no interest in watching Overeem finish what he started with the current Cro-Cop.

I would love to see this guy in the UFC after he fights the top guys at Affliction.

I have no doubt that the current Overeem would dominate the UFC's HW division.

The only questions in my mind is how would he do against Fyodor, Barnett, Arlovski, and Sylvia.

I think he would probably smash Arlovski, but I think Sylvia could present some problems with the reach advantage and TDD.
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:34 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Cro cop is sadly a shadow of what he use to be, Overeem would destroy him.
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