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Old 01-08-2009, 05:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rampage reverses plea to guilty

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He reversed his plea to guilty for a plea bargain.
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I wonder how much jail time a non famous person without hi powered lawyers would have gotten...
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I wonder how much jail time a non famous person without hi powered lawyers would have gotten...
Shit I'd be sitting in tent city (Phoenix, AZ and shitty Joe Arpaio) right now if it was me lol.
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I wonder how much jail time a non famous person without hi powered lawyers would have gotten...
There's a lot of famous and/or rich people with high powered attorneys that go to jail and prison. I can create a list if you wish.
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There's a lot of famous and/or rich people with high powered attorneys that go to jail and prison. I can create a list if you wish.
and I can create a list of famous and/or rich people with high powered attorneys that do not go to jail and prison.
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and I can create a list of famous and/or rich people with high powered attorneys that do not go to jail and prison.
I never said they did not go to jail. In fact, there're poor defendants that don't go to jail either. But there's this myth that if you're rich/famous, and you got a good lawyer, then you ain't going to jail. I'll tell you right now that's a crock of horse shit.
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There's a lot of famous and/or rich people with high powered attorneys that go to jail and prison. I can create a list if you wish.
Well, since you want to be Mr. smarty pants, how about you compile a list of all of the non rich and famous people that don't have a high power attorney that go to jail/prison, then a list of those that get a plea.

Then, compile another list of those that are rich and have high powered attorneys and go to jail, and then another list of those that get off.

Then, figure out the percentages per category that get off vs. those that go to jail.

Then we can compare the two and see what the results are.

Or.... you can just sit back and realize that your post had no meaning because we all knew exactly what the guy you quoted was saying which is, Having money and/or high powered attorneys gives you a person a huge advantage when it comes to a trial.
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Having money and/or high powered attorneys gives you a person a huge advantage when it comes to a trial.
Sometimes, but not all the time. Sometimes it doesn't even make a difference. Sometimes it doesn't matter how much money you got, who you know, or how smart your attorney is -- your ass is going to prison.

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It has been an eventful six months since Quinton "Rampage" Jackson lost his UFC light heavyweight title to Forrest Griffin in July of 2008. He has since been involved in a very public legal episode that involved leading police on a chase that ended in Newport Beach, Calif.; left longtime trainer Juanito Ibarra for the U.K.'s Wolfslair; successfully returned to the Octagon to gain revenge on his nemesis, Wanderlei Silva; and, on Thursday morning, he began what he hopes will be the closure process to his legal troubles.

In an Orange County court on Thursday, Jackson accepted a plea bargain in a case stemming from his arrest on July 15, 2008, in exchange for a reversal of his plea from not guilty to guilty.

The arrest came after Jackson allegedly led police on a chase through several towns that involved hitting other vehicles, running red lights, driving into oncoming traffic, before he surrendered in Newport Beach.

He was originally charged with one felony count of evading while driving recklessly, one felony count of evading a peace officer and driving against traffic, three misdemeanor counts of hit and run with property damage, and one misdemeanor count of reckless driving. At his preliminary hearing on Thursday, he reversed his plea to guilty on one misdemeanor count of reckless driving and one felony count of evading a peace officer and driving against traffic.

With the acceptance of the plea bargain, Jackson's sentencing will be deferred to Jan. 7, 2010. If he meets the requirements of the plea bargain, the felony count will be dismissed and he will only be sentenced for the misdemeanor. If he fails to meet the requirements of his plea bargain, he will be charged and sentenced on both counts.

"Today, Quinton entered into a plea agreement that was fashioned to place more time between the instance and the resolution. The agreement is analogous to a deferred entry of judgment in that the plea to count two, evading a peace officer and driving against traffic, will be withdrawn and dismissed at the end of one year if Quinton's doctors are assured that he has maintained good physical and mental health and he has complied with the other terms of the agreement. He will be seeing his doctor's regularly with bimonthly reports provided to the district attorney. He will also perform 200 hours of community service, which will be designed to reach as many young people as possible," said Jackson's attorney, Carol Lavacot, in a prepared statement detailing the requirements of her client.

It was also revealed during the hearing that Jackson has also agreed to pay restitution on all counts against him, including the felony that will be dismissed as part of his plea agreement.

"Quinton's decompensation on July 15, 2008, was precipitated by multiple factors interacting with one another. None of these factors included drugs or alcohol. It is the opinion of his doctor's that Quinton suffered a brief episode of delirium, which was reactive to situational and metabolic difficulties," explained Lavacot in her statement. "He is learning to manage the stressors in his life and has been working with a nutritionist to maintain his physical as well as his mental health.

"Quinton, from the beginning, has wanted to take responsibility for his actions. He has learned a great deal about his physical body and about mental health. During this next year, Quinton has chosen to share his knowledge of how good nutrition, exercise, and sufficient sleep leads to success. He will be speaking to groups of young people in the hope that his unfortunate incident can be turned into something positive for others."

As long as he meets the terms of his agreement, the plea bargain will keep Jackson out of jail and in the Octagon. Having defeated Silva at UFC 92 on Dec. 27, it is speculated he could return to competition again as soon as June or July.

"I think it's very fair, considering the circumstances," Jackson's attorney, Carol Lavacot, told MMAWeekly.com.
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Sometimes, but not all the time. Sometimes it doesn't even make a difference. Sometimes it doesn't matter how much money you got, who you know, or how smart your attorney is -- your ass is going to prison.
Having enough money to get a real good lawyer can make all the difference in the world. I have a friend whose gotten 3 DUI's, has gotten 2 drugs possesion charges, and a charge of possesion with intent to sell. That dude has done zero time in jail because his mom is rich and bought him a crazy good lawyer who got all those charges knocked down.

I also have a friend who has gotten two drug charges and has spent over a year in jail, but hes dirt poor and had no money for a lawyer.

I myself have spent time in jail because of lack of a good lawyer and have gotten off a charge because I had a good lawyer before.

It can make all the difference in the world. If you dont know this then youve obviously had no real experience and are just talking out of your ass.
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