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Old 11-12-2006, 11:09 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I don't mean to bump this thread...but it needs to be said.

To all of those user here (don't know how many there are exactly), who jumped on the Travis Lutter bangwagon last night, and think he stands a shot against Anderson Silva.....come back to reality. It's a ONE-SIDED fight...and like the person above me stated - will be an easy v-Bookie money maker.

Lutter = Middle Of The Road Fighter...and that's being nice -- he CAN'T throw to save his life, and his takedowns are nothing special. Like people said in this thread...they're telegraphed badly - but nitwits like Sell & Cote don't pick that stuff up.

Silva = World Class Fighter - just ask Leben and Franklin. Everyone though, before those two fights that Anderson would be dominated. Guess what...Silva makes quick work of both.

Now the UFC wants to match him up against this "ground wizard" Travis Lutter? Who?? C'mon man - A.S. has his black belt in BJJ as well, and recieved it from the top-tier guys. You think he can't defend on the ground. Get real. All in all, Lutter just doesn't match up well AT ALL with Anderson. Anderson's taller, long arms, will strike with pin-point accuracy on Lutter's short frame....I don't even see the fight going to the mat. Lemme show you a math equation that sums up February's UFC event:

Anderson Silva >>> (3x) Travis Lutter

End of discussion.
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Old 11-12-2006, 11:15 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Lutter is a decent submission person sure...but you have to remember Anderson Silva has a blackbelt in BJJ from the Nog brothers. Why do all these people think Silva cant fight on the ground. Oh thats right...most people here only watch UFC...and therefore never heard of Silva and dont know anything besides the fact that he owns everyone in the UFC standing...and is potentially equally as dangerous on the ground...and we just havent seen it yet in the UFC.

Anyways...Anderson by KTFO of Lutter in under 3 minutes in the first round.

Easy way to win money on this better on completly 1 sided fights.

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Haha for the second time I was being sarcastic about that remark, replying to the guy that said as soon as Lutter takes Silva to the ground he'll easily submit him.
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Old 11-12-2006, 11:25 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Lutter has a 20% shot at winning. I think that it will take him way too long to find a takedown and in that time he will get knocked out. But travis lutter does have a good chin, he took a big knee to the head from pele then took him down and destroyed him.
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Old 11-13-2006, 05:35 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I dont think that JUST because u have a black belt from the Nogs, that it makes you something special. I havent seen Silva do some really nice ground work. Has he been to ADCC?

This isnt going to be a complete a domination, by whoever wins. People need to stop sucking up to A.S, when he doesnt even bother to read these boards.
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:02 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Lutter has a 20% shot at winning. I think that it will take him way too long to find a takedown and in that time he will get knocked out. But travis lutter does have a good chin, he took a big knee to the head from pele then took him down and destroyed him.

20 percent? Man i gave rich franklin like 5 percent chance of beating anderson...ill give lutter the same percent. Hes a reality show winner...he wasnt good enough to cut it originally in the UFC...and he has beaten abunch of other people who couldnt cut it...and now hes gonna beat a World Class fighter? not gonna happen.

And yes, getting a BJJ black belt from the NOG brothers does count for something. So what that Anderson has been submitted...who hasnt that has been fighting their whole life. Thats why he got the blackbelt to make sure he could defend and submit others. Hes a very talented striker and now has great ground training.

Lutter = waking up after 1 minute saying...what? I thought I was winning! Is it the 2nd round already? While Anderson puts his belt back around his waste...waiting for Rich to come back to only to receive a broken nose again!

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I don't mean to bump this thread...but it needs to be said.

To all of those user here (don't know how many there are exactly), who jumped on the Travis Lutter bangwagon last night, and think he stands a shot against Anderson Silva.....come back to reality. It's a ONE-SIDED fight...and like the person above me stated - will be an easy v-Bookie money maker.

Lutter = Middle Of The Road Fighter...and that's being nice -- he CAN'T throw to save his life, and his takedowns are nothing special. Like people said in this thread...they're telegraphed badly - but nitwits like Sell & Cote don't pick that stuff up.

Silva = World Class Fighter - just ask Leben and Franklin. Everyone though, before those two fights that Anderson would be dominated. Guess what...Silva makes quick work of both.

Now the UFC wants to match him up against this "ground wizard" Travis Lutter? Who?? C'mon man - A.S. has his black belt in BJJ as well, and recieved it from the top-tier guys. You think he can't defend on the ground. Get real. All in all, Lutter just doesn't match up well AT ALL with Anderson. Anderson's taller, long arms, will strike with pin-point accuracy on Lutter's short frame....I don't even see the fight going to the mat. Lemme show you a math equation that sums up February's UFC event:

Anderson Silva >>> (3x) Travis Lutter

End of discussion.
Lutter doesn't fight like Leben or Franklin. Lutter will automatically want to take this fight to the ground. Lutter has more of a chance than every other MW on TUF 4. Lutter's a strong guy, and people forget this. He's not a bum, and he does have a shot. Will he? Personally, I don't think so, but people are all of a sudden saying Silva is bulletproof. Yea, Silva is a good fighter, and he's the most dangerous MW in the UFC. But, don't count the underdog out. This is MMA, and pretty much anything can happen.

Silva's been subbed before. Don't act like it hasn't happened. Not only was he subbed, but he was subbed by B & D-level fighters.
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20 percent? Man i gave rich franklin like 5 percent chance of beating anderson...ill give lutter the same percent. Hes a reality show winner...he wasnt good enough to cut it originally in the UFC...and he has beaten abunch of other people who couldnt cut it...and now hes gonna beat a World Class fighter? not gonna happen.

And yes, getting a BJJ black belt from the NOG brothers does count for something. So what that Anderson has been submitted...who hasnt that has been fighting their whole life. Thats why he got the blackbelt to make sure he could defend and submit others. Hes a very talented striker and now has great ground training.

Lutter = waking up after 1 minute saying...what? I thought I was winning! Is it the 2nd round already? While Anderson puts his belt back around his waste...waiting for Rich to come back to only to receive a broken nose again!

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[quote=Damone]Lutter doesn't fight like Leben or Franklin. Lutter will automatically want to take this fight to the ground. Lutter has more of a chance than every other MW on TUF 4. Lutter's a strong guy, and people forget this. He's not a bum, and he does have a shot. Will he? Personally, I don't think so, but people are all of a sudden saying Silva is bulletproof.[quote]


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Lutter doesn't fight like Leben or Franklin. Lutter will automatically want to take this fight to the ground. Lutter has more of a chance than every other MW on TUF 4. Lutter's a strong guy, and people forget this. He's not a bum, and he does have a shot. Will he? Personally, I don't think so, but people are all of a sudden saying Silva is bulletproof. Yea, Silva is a good fighter, and he's the most dangerous MW in the UFC. But, don't count the underdog out. This is MMA, and pretty much anything can happen.

Silva's been subbed before. Don't act like it hasn't happened. Not only was he subbed, but he was subbed by B & D-level fighters.
Yes, but what you're failing to realize is that same assessment can be used for ANY fighter, "Watch out for the underdog", "underdogs always have something to fight for", now since you can use this for any fight, why even bother bringing it up? We're comparing the TALENTS of the 2, not "Well he's the underdog" blah blah.

No one is saying Silva is bulletproof, no one is saying Silva is unbeatable, I love how since the majority of the fans are picking Silva to win that all of a sudden means he's "unbeatable", dude stop putting words in peoples mouth. People are making accurate assessments on how the fight might turn out, judging from the fighters TALENTS, not "the underdog" angle. I mean people are always saying "Well any fighter can adapt to Silvas style", and Silva cant adapt to his opponent!? Silva knows Lutter will probably fake a left jab and try for his slow ass takedown, push him against the fence, and if Lutter does get Anderson to the ground, I'm sure he'll train more excessively on JJ to prevent anything from happening. So throw that underdog shit out of the window and talk some MMA, please.

No one is acting like SIlva hasn't been subbed before. Yeah, 2 times, and once again, a little over 3 years ago, and the other coming in a crazy desperation flying scissor heel hook that no one could have prevented or escaped. So please if you want to support your claims, make sense.
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