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Old 02-03-2009, 08:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
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This is like when that one kid accused MJ of molesting him, then 18 other people suddenly remembered he had touched them.

If these dudes were smart, then they would have told the athletic commission, the judges, the refs, whoever, WHEN it happened, not murmer it to 3 people and wait for the train to pick up steam.

I don't care how many people suddenly come out and say it. They should have done it when they had their respective chances.

This would have been much more believable had it stemmed out in a longer period of time with fighters speaking out about it during and directly after their matches with GSP, rather than all suddenly remembering it when one person sounds off.
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Thank God there is something after this fight that can motivate GSP to train for Alves the same way he was motivated to beat Penn.

There's gotta be video footage of the other fights in the same manner that there was for GSP vs Penn. They always try to listen in to what the corner is telling them to do. Let's see some proof before we get all Salem on GSP and Jackson.

Convenient though that only in the fights Matt Hughes lost did GSP grease...The most dominant WW champion of all-time couldn't possibly have motive to make the current title-holder look bad, could he?

Not much more to be said. Watch the fights, look for clues, and that's about all that can be done.
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:23 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Why is it SO IMPORTANT for everyone to mention Matt Hughes being a douche every single time a thread or interview comes out? He didn't even say anything wrong in this quote. He was being fair and didn't make any specific accusations regarding GSP actually cheating or changing the outcome of the fight, all he said was he thought he felt greasy. He didn't say "GSP greased in my fights too" he said "GSP felt greasy when I fought him the last 2 times" he left it open as being either sweat or vaseline. People need to grow up.
If he was leaving it open to sweat or vaseline, he'd directly say so. The fact of the matter is, he's coming right out, in a time when GSP is falling under fire for utilizing vaseline during fights, and saying that St. Pierre felt greasy during their last two bouts. Clearly he knows how people are going to take such a comment, and if he didn't want it to be taken as such, he'd say, 'could have been sweat, could have been vaseline'. People are going to see the term 'greasy' and assume the worst. I also had a chuckle at the fact that Hughes stated that GSP felt greasy in the two fights in which he lost, yet made no mention of the one which he won. I guess Georges forgot his vaseline at home, that day. And for the record, this has nothing to do with any bias towards Hughes. I actually tend to like him as a fighter and person. It's just that this is clearly getting out of hand, and I refuse to believe that the likes of Serra and Hughes would have been silent until now had they truly believed they were duped.
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:24 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Maybe GSP should stop doing that....that's all I got. I honetly don't believe GSP has been "cheating" in this way at all. Either way, there have been so many damn threads on this right now it might as well be threads arguing that Herb Dean is black.
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:25 PM   #25 (permalink)
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So it is unanimous? GSP has greased in every single one of his fights and no one made a big deal about it till now...

It may be possible that he greased but I seriously wonder if he is just slimy when he sweats(I get pretty gross myself). Not sure if that would be it but in the Penn fight I didn't see anywhere near enough vaseline being applied to make that much of a difference and even when he was dried off a lot between the later rounds he still was able to slip around easily.
GSP has some ridiculously low body fat when he fights, this could contribute to his slippery feel, low body fat means less water, thinner skin, no subcutaneous fat to make tissue softer, just sweat and muscle.

Oh and the fact that he doesn’t just lay there in someone’s guard but is about the most active guy on top in all of MMA.
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:27 PM   #26 (permalink)
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This is like when that one kid accused MJ of molesting him, then 18 other people suddenly remembered he had touched them.
I'm court ordered not to speak of this matter but let's just say they had it coming and if those meddling kids had kept their mouths shut we wouldn't have had any problems.
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Okay what is this with the greasing? Hey I may have wanted Bj to win even though I had money on GSP, but this shit is ridiculous. Like 2 of my friends (bj nut huggers) are totally convinced GSP is a cheating douche. I can't believe this BS
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:29 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I feel sorry for Alves. He's going to face the hardest working GSP that anyone ever has. I don't see this doing anything other than motivating GSP to become even more of a monster than he already is.
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:30 PM   #30 (permalink)
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*yawn* Who's the next fighter to say he felt greasy? Koscheck? Trigg? Parisyan?
It would be hilarious if Trigg was the next one. GSP stuck to that guy like glue for 4 minutes before tapping him.

I'm also getting a little concerned, but at the same time I'm confused. Nobody has mentioned this before, but GSP has only been cornered by the Jackson Camp since UFC 74. At first this was thought to be caused by Phil Nurse's oversight in his corner. Since Penn has started talking about their first fight (UFC 58), Hughes is now talking about the second (UFC 65) and third fights, and Mayhem is talking about their fight (UFC 52), that means if GSP has been greasing, he's done it with two different corners, but prior to GSP switching camps, he performed no such between round massage rituals, or anything of the sort. You can look at this a bunch of ways. Either GSP himself has iniated his corner greasing him (possible, but unlikely given his character and general honesty), GSP gets sweaty during fights (imagine that?), or these opponents are looking for a way out... but not really, since none of them claim it's changed the outcome of the fight (then why bring it up at all?)

What I find especially interesting, is that Hughes didn't mention his first fight (UFC 50) with GSP as one of the times he felt greasy, even though Mayhem talked about him being greasy at 52. Did GSP just suddenly have an epiphany after he lost to Hughes that he needed to grease, or does Hughes not care because he won that fight? I would likely think the latter.

Just a whole bunch of weird stuff going on. Made even weirder by the fact that nobody has talked about this publicly until now.
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