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Old 02-03-2009, 09:33 PM   #51 (permalink)
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What the hell was he ranting about?

And yeah, Bruckmann, Pato, Sean Pierson and Richie Nancoo came to my high school back in the day (like 2000) and did about a month of BJJ/MMA training with a gym class of mine that focused on Combative Sports. It's what got me into the sport. Cool guys. His gym is on Wilson Rd in Oshawa if you were curious.

Back on topic. GSP is teh cheater. He shouldn't be allowed to sweat anymore.
Something along the lines of how he wants to go train there cause he's the most well rounded and respected GYM in GTA+ and some other drunk rambling.

And yeah, GSP sucks.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:35 PM   #52 (permalink)
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This is starting to become really, really, REALLY, annoying and redundant.

As far as I'm concerned GSP's corner got caught doing something that was considered to be breaking the rules, wether it was a ritual and an honest mistake which I believe it to be.

What really pissing me off it that fighters that GSP whomped 1-3 years ago are now coming out and claiming he greased, and attempting to discredit him.

Vaseline doesn't turn you into a world class fighter.

This is the last I'l say on this subject.

I think all these greasing threads should be merged and then closed when the issue is resolved by the NSAC

Perfect example of a lack of reading comprehension skills. Not one fighter has called him a cheater, and not one fighter has claimed it had any affect on the ultimate outcome, and every single one of those fighters have acknowledged GSP as being the best WW on earth.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:37 PM   #53 (permalink)
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What the hell was he ranting about?

And yeah, Bruckmann, Pato, Sean Pierson and Richie Nancoo came to my high school back in the day (like 2000) and did about a month of BJJ/MMA training with a gym class of mine that focused on Combative Sports. It's what got me into the sport. Cool guys. His gym is on Wilson Rd in Oshawa if you were curious.

Back on topic. GSP is teh cheater. He shouldn't be allowed to sweat anymore.
Really? That's pretty cool.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:47 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:59 PM   #55 (permalink)
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That's the problem with you diehards. You can't look at this objectively. If they would have came out and said it right after the fight they would have been lynched and called sore losers and whatnot. Now that they come out later on they STILL get shit for it from people like you who can't realize that MAYBE just MAYBE they didn't want to say anything before because the fight was still fresh in the fans minds and it would make them look like sore losers and there would be no way of proving it!
I'm a GSP fan and I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible. It does sound strange to me that Hughes found GSP to be greasy in their first rematch as that fight was entirely on the feet.

You are probably indifferent about him so you probably don't seem to care as much but his fans will know that regardless of what happens now, considering everything that has happened, GSP's win (and possibly career) will forever be tarnished.
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Again, I'm not saying that Hughes is dubbing GSP a cheater, or that he's accusing him of having utilized vaseline in their bouts. It certainly seems like it may be implied, but it isn't said outright, so it could be taken many different ways. But it's also okay to question the situation, and indeed the very comments on the basis of the tape. Hughes claims that GSP felt greasy in their last two bouts, yet if you watch GSP vs. Hughes II, you'll notice that the fight is essentially all stand-up, and that they lock up for all of five seconds. How can he say GSP felt greasy when he more or less never got his hands on him? Just seems strange to me, and another reason why we can't really rely on memory recall, here. Memory can be tricky, but the tape never lies.

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Old 02-03-2009, 10:49 PM   #57 (permalink)
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That's the problem with you diehards. You can't look at this objectively. If they would have came out and said it right after the fight they would have been lynched and called sore losers and whatnot. Now that they come out later on they STILL get shit for it from people like you who can't realize that MAYBE just MAYBE they didn't want to say anything before because the fight was still fresh in the fans minds and it would make them look like sore losers and there would be no way of proving it!
The diehards do have one thing right though, GSP didn't get to where he is by greasing. Could it have been a factor in GSP vs. BJ 1? Yeah, it was a razor thin fight.

But Hughes last 2 fights, Mayhem, Sherk, BJ 2, Trigg, Serra 2 etc...its hard to believe greasing played a role in GSP's victories.

If he is found guilty (which is plausible and very possible) he should be held to account. Cheating is cheating. But I think most can agree that it doesn't necessarily diminish his accomplishments because no one can tell whether it was intentional and malicious or whether it was an accident and NO ONE can definitively say that it was the sole reason for GSP's wins because he dominated in pretty much every phase of the game.
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Old 02-03-2009, 10:53 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Crybaby Hughes is nto saying this lol. God i hate this guy.
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Why is it SO IMPORTANT for everyone to mention Matt Hughes being a douche every single time a thread or interview comes out? He didn't even say anything wrong in this quote. He was being fair and didn't make any specific accusations regarding GSP actually cheating or changing the outcome of the fight, all he said was he thought he felt greasy. He didn't say "GSP greased in my fights too" he said "GSP felt greasy when I fought him the last 2 times" he left it open as being either sweat or vaseline. People need to grow up.

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Old 02-03-2009, 10:53 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I don't think anyone is out here trying to say GSP isn't the best WW in the world or that he's not one of if the the best P4P fighter in the world.

However If this is true then his corner needs to be punished and he needs to be looked at. Cheating is Cheating and it is serious if they have been. I don't think it has changed fights that much since his guard passing wasn't really a strength of his until this last fight.

But if they cheated they needed to be held accountable. And if it's been happening for a long time. Longer then Jacksons been cornering him then GSP will need to take more heat for this.
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Isn't this wolf crying wolf!! So it was okay when Hughes did it, but now it is a big deal all of a sudden. I can't find any links about this either, but I remember at least one of his former opponents complaining shortly after a loss.
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