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Old 02-04-2009, 04:52 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Leaving aside the issue of whether GSP was greasing or not - which i am inclined to doubt. In the BJ fight, he could only have been greased in the first round - which didnt go to the floor, since the commission guy stepped in before the second and every subsequent round and towelled him off. So Gsp took BJ to the ground beat the living crap out of him after being towelled off every round. So seems we can safely assume vaseline had nothing to do with the effect of this fight.

As for Hughes, second fight, vaseline has very little effect on a kick to the head, and gsp tossed him around like a rag doll in the third. Had there been vaseline at play then hughes would have got it all over his arms when clinching gsp and would have alot harder to secure the arm bar.

If I was GSP i would make a big sarcastic over the top show of towelling myself before each round against Alves. Then if/when he wins there can be no doubt.
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:10 AM   #82 (permalink)
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why is this all coming out now? why haven't people mentioned it before then?


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Old 02-04-2009, 08:11 AM   #83 (permalink)
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You are probably indifferent about him so you probably don't seem to care as much but his fans will know that regardless of what happens now, considering everything that has happened, GSP's win (and possibly career) will forever be tarnished.
Tarnished by idiots is what I'm sayin.

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The diehards do have one thing right though, GSP didn't get to where he is by greasing. Could it have been a factor in GSP vs. BJ 1? Yeah, it was a razor thin fight.

But Hughes last 2 fights, Mayhem, Sherk, BJ 2, Trigg, Serra 2 etc...its hard to believe greasing played a role in GSP's victories.

If he is found guilty (which is plausible and very possible) he should be held to account. Cheating is cheating. But I think most can agree that it doesn't necessarily diminish his accomplishments because no one can tell whether it was intentional and malicious or whether it was an accident and NO ONE can definitively say that it was the sole reason for GSP's wins because he dominated in pretty much every phase of the game.
I agree with this, you don't have to be a GSP diehard to agree with this, just gotta have some common sense

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Isn't this wolf crying wolf!! So it was okay when Hughes did it, but now it is a big deal all of a sudden. I can't find any links about this either, but I remember at least one of his former opponents complaining shortly after a loss.
I honestly don't get how you can think Hughes is making a big deal about this. If he was making a big deal of it I would assume he would outright accuse him of cheating, and not make such an effort to sound so lethargic about it all.

"For whatever reason it may be, BJ, Serra, Sherk, and Mayhem are not lying when they say GSP is slippery, I can vouch for them from personal experience."...that pretty much summarizes this blog IMO. Seems completely legit to me.

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GSP is just a greased up glorified fighter. He's rubbish. He should go back to picking up rubbish. He can't say that he never knew what was going on, if he was a true champ then he would have told Greg Jackson that he didn't want anything to do with that. GSP is just a little girl and a CHEATER.
Yea. What he said. F*ck GSP. He's a greasy f*cktard!! GreaSeP sux!

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No it's just the fact that Hughes was making accusation towards GSP, but in his own passive aggressive assh*le style.
Wait a second, so if he goes out of his way to sound as unbiased and fair as he possibly can, and make an effort to include that it had nothing to do with his losses, he's an asshole. But if he outright calls GSP a cheater and says he greases and he would have won if not for him greasing, then what? Oh, still an asshole? Right.
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I think alot of people were afraid to say anything before..didn't want to get called a sore loser...but when NSAC catches you on TAPE and then BJ files a complaint it makes for perfect timing...I'm a huge GSP (just check my other posts) Fan but I can't believe the amount of crap BJ and these other guys are getting..It's like they are the ones that cheated here...I know GSP is GOD to some people..But cheating is cheating...and if you haven't seen the video you might want to take a look...He clearly cheated..The NSAC stated that in thier intial findings..that's why he was bieng wiped down between rounds...I was once a huge Chris Leben Fan..Anybody want to what I think of him now?
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I dunno about this greasing thing, until someone can definintively prove it, i dont care what a bunch of people say

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you know, this doesn't look like an attack to GSP.

all it's says is "he felt greasy"

it could be easily a defense to GSP if you look to it like this:

In my Two fights against GSP he was checked for oils before the fight and nobody in the comission saw anything irregular being applied between rounds, he still felt greasy, maybe he's naturally like that...


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Old 02-04-2009, 09:47 AM   #87 (permalink)
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you know, this doesn't look like an attack to GSP.

all it's says is "he felt greasy"

it could be easily a defense to GSP if you look to it like this:

In my Two fights against GSP he was checked for oils before the fight and nobody in the comission saw anything irregular being applied between rounds, he still felt greasy, maybe he's naturally like that...


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I honestly don't get how you can think Hughes is making a big deal about this. If he was making a big deal of it I would assume he would outright accuse him of cheating, and not make such an effort to sound so lethargic about it all.
Big deal was probably a bad word choice. I don't think he is making it out to be big at all.
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Wait a second, so if he goes out of his way to sound as unbiased and fair as he possibly can, and make an effort to include that it had nothing to do with his losses, he's an asshole. But if he outright calls GSP a cheater and says he greases and he would have won if not for him greasing, then what? Oh, still an asshole? Right.
No, a passive aggressive assh*le.
It's Matt Hughes we're talking about, nothing he says is unbiased. What it is, is him trying to have his cake and eat it too. Trying to add merit to these allegations, while trying to cover his ass. If he outright says something about it, like he should have two and three years ago, at least there would be evidence to look at and then make a call from then and there. Not suddenly fess up like some traumatized victim coming out of the closet years later. And to put it plainly, yes, Hughes is an assh*le. I'd think a majority of people agree. But we knew that before he even fought GSP.

What bugs me isn't even what he said. It's how he said it. Now I see where you are coming from. You are looking at what he said, and taking that at face value. You're looking only at the words and not letting your own head fill in the "Tone" or "Attitude" of what was said. Ordinarily that's a good thing. But this is Matt Hughes we are talking about, a man who we both know defines egocentric, arrogant, and conceited. And probably other things I don't know the words for. I don't know. You could think he's a model of charm, grace and humbleness. I just think it's laughable to think he didn't mean anything by it, based on my impression of his character from 2 seasons of TUF, interviews, and his book...
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