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Old 06-27-2006, 01:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Even if Shamrock was in the best shape of his life (which I think we all agree he isn't), he'd still be the underdog in this fight imo. Tito is most definitely training like an animal for this fight cause if he wins then he gets a title shot probably at UFC 65 in December/January.
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Even if Shamrock was in the best shape of his life (which I think we all agree he isn't), he'd still be the underdog in this fight imo. Tito is most definitely training like an animal for this fight cause if he wins then he gets a title shot probably at UFC 65 in December/January.
If Tito does get a title shot if he wins this match that would be pretty stupid because we all know Chuck Liddell would destroy him.
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Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure it's part of Tito's current contract that if he wins his first 2 fights then his 3rd will be a title shot.
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Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure it's part of Tito's current contract that if he wins his first 2 fights then his 3rd will be a title shot.
True. I believe him or Forrest will get a title shot soon but I can't picture either of them beating Chuck. First off, Tito lost to Chuck and actually was beaten pretty badly but may be improved now. But still I think Chuck can still beat him.
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True. I believe him or Forrest will get a title shot soon but I can't picture either of them beating Chuck. First off, Tito lost to Chuck and actually was beaten pretty badly but may be improved now. But still I think Chuck can still beat him.
To Tito's credit, that was his only ever (T)KO loss. If he could put Chuck on his back then I think he'd have a great chance at beating him. Of course, taking Chuck down is a whole new topic all together.

I assume you think Liddell will beat Babalu at 62?
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I assume you think Liddell will beat Babalu at 62?
Of coarse. My money is on Chuck. TKO first round baby like last time.
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Yeah, my money's on Chuck until I see someone who can strike like him or someone as strong as Rampage enter the UFC. Babalu will probably get KO'd again, I just haven't seen him improve that drastically from his last fight with Chuck.

Tito and Forrest might look good fighting each other, but I don't think either of them can take Chuck. I know that I might sound crazy, but I think the only person under contract with the UFC that has the potential to strike with Chuck is Mike Bisping. Like I said, I might sound crazy, but no one can take Chuck down so you need to be striker to take this title.
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Rich Franklin however is dominant and has not lost in while but Kazushi is not dominant and has a mediocre record of 19-9-1. Ken could have beat Kazushi but didn't.
I know that you might not be a fighter, Rush, but you need to understand that Sakuraba is a shorthand boxer, which means that he's great at destroying grapplers looking for a takedown. Ken had no chance in hell against the Gracie Killer, because he's not even that good at takedowns.
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Ken is over 40, hasn't been fighting and will waste all his energy and adrenaline on rage. Nuff said.

But if anyone thinks that Tito is good enough for a title shot you're kidding yourself. First sign of trouble in any fight Tito covers up and gets smacked to hell. He's better served being a coach.

Met the guy 2 years back though. Big dude. He had a head the size of a med sized turkey. He was with Phil Barrone who looked 300 lbs fatter. He seemed cool though.
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I know that you might not be a fighter, Rush, but you need to understand that Sakuraba is a shorthand boxer, which means that he's great at destroying grapplers looking for a takedown. Ken had no chance in hell against the Gracie Killer, because he's not even that good at takedowns.
I'm afraid to engage, just joking.

That was before. Now I know more about mixed martial arts and understand Sakaruba is a good fighter but his record is not that great but his victories however are.
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