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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 02-24-2009, 02:45 PM Thread Starter
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Are PPV Percentage Contracts Keeping UFC Stars off European Shows?

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Are PPV Percentage Contracts Keeping UFC Stars off European Shows? by Michael Rome on Feb 24, 2009 12:03 PM EST in News 39 comments


Only one star with a PPV percentage scale built into his contract has ever fought on a European UFC PPV show. His name is BJ Penn, and the show (UFC 80) did 225,000 buys. Given the very small bonus he got, it's no surprise that he doesn't have interest in participating in a tape delay PPV show from Germany.


Anderson Silva was originally pencilled in to fight at UFC 95 from London, but turned it down for similar reasons. He publicly said he wasn't ready, but this is the same guy who wanted to fight 3 weeks after his last one. Now he will ride Liddell's coattails to some decent money in April.


Looking at UFC 85, 93, and 95 you again notice there are no stars on these shows with PPV bonuses. The difference is hundreds of thousands of dollars and many viewers. It's hard to blame fighters' agents for taking this view, it is their job to maximize revenue for their clients while they are on top of the game. It's up to the UFC to bridge the gap.


Perhaps an enhanced scale for Europe is in order? The only problem is that the European shows, while profitable, are not exactly making a killing, and it's not clear yet that adding big names to those shows will make a big difference on PPV. It may just be that fans don't pay for PPV on tape delay.


This is a serious problem, and you could see the first effects at UFC 95 this weekend. The announced attendance of 13,000+ was heavily papered, as evidenced by the fact that the same attendance drew a significantly higher gate just last June. Even if you factor in changes in currency, the numbers are down by almost half. If they send substandard shows abroad they risk insulting foreign fans that rightly feel entitled to see top stars for their hard-earned money.


I don't think all hope of BJ defending in June is lost, I suspect the "negotiations" involve his team asking for more to fight there. However, I wouldn't be shocked if Wanderlei Silva vs. Rich Franklin is the main event of UFC 99.
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I found this pretty interesting- especially with A. Silva as after the Cote fight(and even before) stated he wanted to fight as much as possible and especially how the fans reacted to the result in the Cote fight. It also brings up how some fighters are and aren't used in the overseas productions.

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Thanks for that. Repped.
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Jeez, I never thought about that. Good article.
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They should only go to Europe once a yr, Weak cards, tape delay and retarded Refs is just not worth it.
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Hopefully they can get some more good English/ European fighters, so they can headline. Kongo and Bisping the only big names at the moment (that come to mind anyway).
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Chuck Liddell was going to fight at UFC 85 but had to pull out due to an injury.

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Looking at UFC 85, 93, and 95 you again notice there are no stars on these shows with PPV bonuses. The difference is hundreds of thousands of dollars and many viewers. It's hard to blame fighters' agents for taking this view, it is their job to maximize revenue for their clients while they are on top of the game. It's up to the UFC to bridge the gap.
Matt Hughes was on 85 I find it hard to believe he is not getting a cut of the ppv action, this is disappointing but I cant blame the fighters for getting hundreds of thousand extra delaying a fight by a few months. I'm hating on BJ on another thread for poofing out of UFC 99 but if its for pay I dont mind so much.

Bottom line is the European cards rock hard and guys who are willing to fight put a great show and can further careers by winning in Europe.



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I wonder how many of the stars have the PPV percentage contract?

Also I want to know why almost everyone says the European cards are weak?

UFC 70 you got: Gonzaga/Cro Cop, Arlovski/Werdum, Bisping, Machida, and Kongo on that card.

UFC 72 you got: Franklin/Okami, Forrest Griffin, and Tyson Griffin/Guida. Ok you probably have an arguement here.

UFC 75 you got: Rampage/Henderson, Bisping/Hamill, Kongo/Cro Cop, Davis/Taylor, and Thiago Silva.

UFC 80 you got: Penn/Stevenson, Werdum/Gonzaga, Marcus Davis, Kelly/Davis and Wilson Gouveia. You might have a little arguement here but you got a title fight.

UFC 85 you got: Alves/Hughes, Bisping, Swick/Davis, Leites/Marquardt, Werdum/Vera, Martin Kampmann, and Luiz Cane.

UFC 89 you got: Bisping/Leben, Jardine/Vera, Cane/Sokoudjou, Davis/Kelly, Hardy, Carwin, and Jim Miller.

UFC 93 you got: Henderson/Franklin, Rua/Coleman, Davis/Lytle, Kampmann, Palhares, and Kang. Ok you probably have a arguement here but you got a main event every had been wanting to see for a long time.

UFC 95 you got: Sanchez/Stevenson, Marquardt/Gouveia, Maia/Sonnen, Hardy/Markham, Koscheck, Dos Santos, and Kelly.

I agree they could probably put a couple more stars on the cards but that doesn't mean the card is weak if they are not on there.

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It's simply wrong because Chuck, at the time the biggest star in MMA was supposed to fight on 85, simple, case closed
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