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Maia vs. Royce Gracie in his prime who wins???

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#1 ·
Just thought it'd be funny to ponder. I have kind of wandered from bjj as that was what I was first enamored with in MMA. I don't think it would nessecarily be an entertaining bout but I wonder who the better bjj practioner is.
 
#2 ·
This isn't even a question Maia would murder him they aren't even close in grappling.

Royce Gracie has some of the most overrated BJJ in the history of MMA.
 
#4 ·
Royce was never really one of the greatest BJJ guys in the world.

Even in his prime. Now Rickson even though he's a loud mouth asshole in his prime probably would've beaten Maia but Royce would'nt stand a chance.
 
#36 ·
Yup Royce wouldn't do well against other's who are great BJJ. Royce was chosen to fight because he was smallish and the Gracies wanted to show the world that BJJ didn't need size to be effective.
 
#19 ·
Yea it's all about Roger and Marcelo as 1 and 2 going nowadays. Jacare is 3 or 4 with Xande and then Maia is somewhere in the top 10. Not far behind though.
 
#21 ·
This isn't UFC related at all, but while Rickson is being brought up, how far do you think Kron Gracie will get in BJJ? He's only like 20, isn't he? Do you think he will ever transition to MMA?


It's not really a matter of opinion. Maia could have the best MMA BJJ, but in actual grappling competitions, he isn't the best. He's one of the best, but there are a few above him.
 
#27 ·
No Maia isn't 4.

1. Marcelo Garcia
2. Roger Gracie
3. Jacare Souza
4. Xande Ribeiro
5. Pe de Pano
6. Fabricio Werdum
7. Demian Maia

That's just me kinda off the top of the head. If you want a real legit list I could give you one but I'm watching WEC now lol.
 
#31 ·
Yea It's basically Roger, Marcelo are 1 and 2 hard to rank because of the size difference.

Xande and Jacare 3 and 4 and then a ton of otehr great guys who are also the world class grapplers.
 
#32 ·
Also everyone who doesn't really watch much grappling needs to look up Cobrinha. He isn't one of the very top guys, but he is very good and is really fun to watch.

bbjd, I was thinking recently about where Andre Galvao ranks and I can't figure it out. I mean he beat Werdum in ADCC and he just won the Mundials in 2008, but then again he loses to the guys at the very top.
 
#35 ·
Yea that is a black belt competing at Mundials he's doing that too. And that's something it would take skills to be able to do to a white belt.
 
#38 ·
Some people have Drysdale way up there about where Jacare and Xande are. Personally I think he benefited from a down year at ADCC and would have him along with Maia, Werdum, and Galvao.
 
#39 ·
Maia would beat Gracie easily, especially in an MMA match.

The game was evolved so much since then. Royce wouldn't have anything for just about anyone in UFC.

When Gracie started out in MMA, most fighters had very little submission knowledge. Everyone thought Kimo was a beast on the ground because he tested Royce, but he turned out to be pretty mediocre.

Royce could fight the big guys and beat them because he was so far along in submissions. Give him a guy like Maia, who is a great grappler and big and strong, and he gets mauled.

On another note, something about Galvao creeps me out.
 
#42 ·
Maia would muder. End no story

BBJD, id give Maia a slight edge over Werdum in BJJ personally, but he's prob about 5-6

+ that video is rediculous, imagine working all that time to have a black belt and being schooled on about 9 different levels...

/wrists
 
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