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Rush 06-21-2006 03:14 PM

Best UFC fighter of all time? (not PRIDE or any other MMA league)
 
Who do you think is the best UFC fighter of all time out of each weight class based on accomplishments, wins, dominant, etc.

I think the best would have been Belfort but he blew it all away once he returned and became a boring fighter. The best ever has to be Matt Hughes. Matt Hughes is strong, a great grappler, submissionist, hes good all around. And not to mention he dominated the formerly greatest fighter ever. Who do you think is the best ever?

USMCgrappler 06-21-2006 05:42 PM

Hard to judge now with weight classes.

I would have to pick Marco Ruas.
He never had a legitimate loss in the UFC. (Somehow bloodying Oleg to a pulp and kicking his ass into next year, while not suffering a scratch led to a loss). Had that not happened, I think he would have ruled for a long time.

Kameleon 06-22-2006 01:40 AM

Ken Shamrock!

brownpimp88 06-22-2006 01:45 AM

mark kerr,lol. In reality its proly a guy like chuck or randy.

Eminem 06-22-2006 02:11 AM

Heavy Weight-:Ken Shamrock

Light Heavy weight - Chuck Liddell

Middle weight - Never realy been a dominate Champ, So id say Rich

Welterweight - Matt Hughes

Light weight - ya know im realy not sure :dunno:

USMCgrappler 06-22-2006 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eminem
Heavy Weight-:Ken Shamrock

Light Heavy weight - Chuck Liddell

Middle weight - Never realy been a dominate Champ, So id say Rich

Welterweight - Matt Hughes

Light weight - ya know im realy not sure :dunno:


Thanks for being the bright and shining example of "new to the sport." I recommend you buy the first 30 UFCs and tell me who is the best heavyweight and middleweight.

Ken Shamrock was the master of not continuing a tournament (either by loss or injury). He also never beat any real fighters.

Loss Rich Franklin TKO (Strikes) UFC-Ultimate Fighter Finale 4/9/2005 1 2:42
Win Kimo Leopoldo TKO (Knee) UFC 48-Payback 6/19/2004 1 1:26
Loss Tito Ortiz TKO (Corner Stoppage) UFC 40-Vendetta 11/22/2002 3 5:00
Loss Dan Severn Decision UFC 9-Motor City Madness 5/17/1996 1 30:00
Win Kimo Leopoldo Submission (Kneebar) UFC 8-David vs. Goliath 2/16/1996 1 4:24
Draw Oleg Taktarov Draw UFC 7-The Brawl in Buffalo 9/8/1995 1 33:00
Win Dan Severn Submission (Guillotine Choke) UFC 6-Clash of the Titans 7/14/1995 1 2:14
Draw Royce Gracie Draw UFC 5-The Return of the Beast 4/7/1995 1 36:00
Win Felix Mitchell Submission (Rear Naked Choke) UFC 3-The American Dream 9/9/1994 1 4:34
Win Christophe Leninger Submission (Strikes) UFC 3-The American Dream 9/9/1994 1 4:49
Loss Royce Gracie Submission (Rear Naked Choke) UFC 1-The Beginning 11/12/1993 1 0:57
Win Patrick Smith Submission (Heel Hook) UFC 1-The Beginning 11/12/1993 1 1:49

Have you ever seen Frank Shamrock?

Has he been banned from the UFC or something? He is not on the fighters list. He was the most dominant middleweight the UFC ever had.


Win Tito Ortiz Submission (Strikes) UFC 22-There Can Be Only One Champion 9/24/1999 4 4:42
Win John Lober Submission (Strikes) UFC Brazil-Ultimate Brazil 10/16/1998 1 7:40
Win Jeremy Horn Submission (Kneebar) UFC 17-Redemption 5/15/1998 1 16:28
Win Igor Zinoviev KO (Slam) UFC 16-Battle in the Bayou 3/13/1998 1 0:22
Win Kevin Jackson Submission (Armbar) UFC Japan-Ultimate Japan 1 12/21/1997 1 0:16

The records speak for themselves. The wrong Shamrock is in the hall of fame. Ken is a joke to the UFC and is only popular due to his WWF time.
No knowledgable fan holds Ken's UFC record in any high regard.

samurice 06-22-2006 01:27 PM

I think the right Shamrock is in the HoF. The record argument is pointless, look at Randy Couture's record. Ken may not be as good as Frank, but he did do more for the sport than Frank. His fighting style is one of the things that made UFC so big in the beginning. Granted, that doesn't make him the best HW of all time either...

brownpimp88 06-22-2006 03:40 PM

Your missing his fight against brian johnston, ken is in the HOF cuz he's a big draw.

NegadivOne 06-22-2006 07:32 PM

I would definately say ken shamrock or matt hughes.

A DOG 06-24-2006 03:32 PM

best fighters
 
I've been watching ufc since the beginning and I am a big fan like some of u are, here is a good opinion of who the best fighters were and are to this day in the UFC.

Heavyweight- between Arlovski and Sylvia, we'll find out at UfC 61

Lightheavyweight- between Chuck and Randy ( although Chuck beat him at the grudgematch, Randy accomplished more in the UFC.) It's a toss up for me.

Middleweight- I'd have to go with my man Frank Shamrock, undefeated, and he could teach Rick Franklin a lesson or two.

Welterweight-Although I don't like him that much I have to give my props to Matt Hughes he has proved himself over and over.

Lightweight- Not a big fan of this division but I think Ives Edwards is up there.


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