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post #11 of 56 (permalink) Old 11-20-2006, 08:59 PM
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hughes will never beat gsp.
He already has actually. If you're talking about nowadays, then he probably wouldn't beat GSP. Then again, GSP is really good, and I don't see anyone dethroning him for a while.

It's amazing how people think Hughes automatically sucks(Or isn't one of the greatest) because he lost to GSP. I'm not really talking about people on here, but other places.

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Hughes is deff not overrated. He was a true champ and derserved every win he got. Not taking anything away from GSP. But I see hughes taking his belt back in the 3rd match
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I did say that he was overrated and he does nothing but lay on people! But I said that more out of anger then good judgement!

Matt Hughes is anything but overrated! The man is a two time UFC welterweight champion! You said it yourself he beat really good fighters and lost to the best! What you call luck many other people would call determination and skill!

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He already has actually. If you're talking about nowadays, then he probably wouldn't beat GSP. Then again, GSP is really good, and I don't see anyone dethroning him for a while.

It's amazing how people think Hughes automatically sucks(Or isn't one of the greatest) because he lost to GSP. I'm not really talking about people on here, but other places.

I think he means that he will never beat GSP for the title back
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in no way is matt over rated. he got the belt at ufc 34 and held on to it until ufc 46 where he lost to bj. he then regained it and he has beaten everybody up to this point. lets also not forget that he has beaten gsp previously. he avenged his loss to penn and has beaten some really good fighters in the ufc. i do not see how you could possibly think that matt is overratted. Just because he lost to gsp people immediatly say he sucks. but what they dont realize is that everybody loses sometime and matt hughes time to lose was at ufc 65 because its not possible for him to be champion for ever, one day a younger fighter will come along and take his place and that fighter happened to be gsp.
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As much as I detest Country breakfast I have to disagree. I hate it when a champ loses and everyone starts shouting "Matt Hughes exposed!" and "never that good" or "he was just lucky" or "he's a can". What a bunch of loser crap. Matt was a great champ but lost to the better man. He will continue to kick ass all over UFC and possibly (a long shot imo) get the title back.

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Any1 who was champ and lost is by definition overrated before he lost... If you would of asked that question before he lost, then i could of answered yes. Now i cant, since he lost.

A 5 time WW champion, who has a very particular 1 dimensional game, i think thats overrated(the fighting style, not Matt Hughes). As time goes by, the next champs are going to be more and more well rounded.
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Matt Hughes, overrated? ahahahahaha. He gets lucky a lot? ahahahahaha oh man "wipes tears" Sorry, but luck doesn't come that often; otherwise it isn't luck.

Matt Hughes loses to GSP and suddenly he's overrated. Are we forgetting, he's already beat GSP. All the greats lose (unless you're Rocky Marciano) but the real greats come back and redeem themselves. Chuck's done it, GSP's done it, Hughes' done it. Regardless, Hughes' is already a great in my eyes. Now Hughes will have the chance of redeeming himself yet again like he did against Penn, but this time against GSP. Overrated? I think not.

Hughes has done a lot for UFC and MMA in general. The sport needed someone like him. Bash his attitude all you want. He's still a fighter, and he's served the growing sport well. He's reigned like a champion and became a headliner, someone that represented the sport and legitimized it even further.
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Matt Hughes, overrated? ahahahahaha. He gets lucky a lot? ahahahahaha oh man "wipes tears" Sorry, but luck doesn't come that often; otherwise it isn't luck.

Matt Hughes loses to GSP and suddenly he's overrated. Are we forgetting, he's already beat GSP. All the greats lose (unless you're Rocky Marciano) but the real greats come back and redeem themselves. Chuck's done it, GSP's done it, Hughes' done it. Regardless, Hughes' is already a great in my eyes. Now Hughes will have the chance of redeeming himself yet again like he did against Penn, but this time against GSP. Overrated? I think not.

Hughes has done a lot for UFC and MMA in general. The sport needed someone like him. Bash his attitude all you want. He's still a fighter, and he's served the growing sport well. He's reigned like a champion and became a headliner, someone that represented the sport and legitimized it even further.
I agree with everything this guy has said. Great post.

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post #20 of 56 (permalink) Old 11-21-2006, 11:44 AM
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I dont think he is overrated I mean almost nobody has beat him since 2004 and the people that did beat him he has beat before. I thought GSP would win however Matt could easily beat him when they fight again. He just needs to learn how to stand up and fight.
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