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Old 12-01-2006, 04:36 PM   #41 (permalink)
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exactly, and saying that brandon won the fight because he poked asuerio is retarded. so if you get poked in the eye you cant tell you are in a guillotine?? if the reason he is overrated is because his fans talk to highly of him, then ill shut up.
LOL I didn't say he won the fight because of it...I don't even remember too much of it I just said that could have made a difference and it threw Assuerio off his gameplan cuz I remember him looking pissed as hell. I think he is overrated when people say he can beat Chuck. That's about it though. I can see him beating AA, nut sure about Sylvia either...but to say he could and would beat Chuck at this point in his career is what is truly retarded....IMHO of course.
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LOL I didn't say he won the fight because of it...I don't even remember too much of it I just said that could have made a difference and it threw Assuerio off his gameplan cuz I remember him looking pissed as hell. I think he is overrated when people say he can beat Chuck. That's about it though. I can see him beating AA, nut sure about Sylvia either...but to say he could and would beat Chuck at this point in his career is what is truly retarded....IMHO of course.
i didnt mean to make it seem like i was saying you said he lost because of the poke. other people made it seem that way. bottom line is the ref gave him time to recover. if he got mad and got of his game plan thats his fault. he got stopped plain and simple, brandon was the better guy that night. i wont say that brandon will beat chuck. i will say that he can take chuck the distance which is a pretty big deal at this point considering chuck has just been walking through everyone he's fought the last couple years. and i can also tell you i have never in my life seen anyone kick as hard as brandon does. he is sick. we have this huge heavy bag, and when he kicks it, it folds. i may be a little bias since i train at lloyd irvins. but i have seen him train in person. he is the real deal. in the next couple years i think team lloyd irvin will be one of the more recognized teams in mma.
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The eye poke was a total accident. Vera apologized, Silva didn't take too kindly to the poke, and Vera guillotine choked Silva. He won, but I think it's a little early to be calling him "one of the best" or even "great". Will he be a force? Of course, but it's still a little too early to tell. If he mows through someone like Arlovski or Monson, then we can say he's ready for Big Tim. Arlovski would be a tough opponent, because he's a pretty good striker, and is good on the ground. However, Vera will only have to tap that weak chin once, and Arlovski will go to sleep.
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:27 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I just watched the fight on Unleashed...why did he stick his fingers out and move them around in his eye??? I'm not saying it was in purpose at all but he sure made it look intentional in the replay. He like sticks his arm out right and put his finger right in Silva's eyes it looks so blatant. I know he didn't do it on purpose but it really looks like it haha. I know he was prolly just getting jumpy and anticipating a high kick or something but it just looks terrible the way he does it.

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Old 12-01-2006, 07:24 PM   #45 (permalink)
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The eye poke was a total accident. Vera apologized, Silva didn't take too kindly to the poke, and Vera guillotine choked Silva. He won, but I think it's a little early to be calling him "one of the best" or even "great". Will he be a force? Of course, but it's still a little too early to tell. If he mows through someone like Arlovski or Monson, then we can say he's ready for Big Tim. Arlovski would be a tough opponent, because he's a pretty good striker, and is good on the ground. However, Vera will only have to tap that weak chin once, and Arlovski will go to sleep.
sylvia smashed arlovski's chin a lot in their last fight and he never went down. arlovski does not have a weak chin.
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Old 12-02-2006, 12:32 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I just watched the fight on Unleashed...why did he stick his fingers out and move them around in his eye??? I'm not saying it was in purpose at all but he sure made it look intentional in the replay. He like sticks his arm out right and put his finger right in Silva's eyes it looks so blatant. I know he didn't do it on purpose but it really looks like it haha. I know he was prolly just getting jumpy and anticipating a high kick or something but it just looks terrible the way he does it.
in muay thai you use your hand as a distraction to set up the kick. sometimes with the open gloves guys get poked.i think you can tell by the way he was apologizing he didnt mean it. brandon is the nicest guy in the world. i was running late to my muay thai class once, and i wasnt watching were i was running and me and brandon ran into each other. it was my fault, but he was like "oh sorry excuse me sir"..he is genuinly a good guy. and he doesnt need to poke someone in the eye to win a fight, trust me.
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Old 12-03-2006, 09:59 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Damone, I guess I should make this clear, in case the above does not.

I am not saying that Vera can beat Liddell, I'm not saying that he can even beat Sylvia. What I'm saying is that someone calling a fighter with Vera's credentials overrated is stupid and ignorant.
I call him OVERRATED because everyone and their dog is saying Vera is the next face of the HW division... COME ON give me a break.

One more time, I've seen his fights, Im not overly impressed. The only impressive fact about Vera (to date) is his record. Considering only 1 of his wins is against a decent fighter, again NOT IMPRESSED to the point I say he'll beat Lidell or Sylvia.

I made this thread cause all I see lately is "Vera is God" "Vera the new face of the HW division" Isnt that just a TAD premature?

I love Bisping too, I think hes the new face of the UFC myself. But you dont see me making "The Count will PWN the ufc" threads do you>?

Realistically speaking, Vera is very good, he might just be the champ SOMEDAY, but to jump the gun and start calling him a mma GOD is crap.

OVERRATED in the mma community. Period.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:02 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I don't think people are talking about this correctly. Vera is not overrated. People are not overrating him.

Look at the UFC HW division. There's fresh blood in it. Let people be excited about it. Sylvia for the most part is boring (except the few of you who love him.) AA Fell apart and will most likely not get another title shot while Tim is there. The only other new hope we had, and we were "OVERRATING" him was Cheick Kongo and he got spanked.

Vera is a new face (to the UFC mainstream now) and is a great fighter. Let people be amped up about what he can do! Think of it this way, if it wasn't Vera, who else would we be talking about fighting Sylvia?

... exactly.
How bout Fedors brother... Aleks ?

Now THATS someone to get hyped about
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i tell you what..you guys tell me who he has to beat to not be overrated anymore and ill pass it along to him next time i see him. i have never seen anyone kick as hard as brandon does in my life. rob kaman is probably one of the best kickboxing coachs there is, and master lloyd is the bjj equivelent. thats a pretty deadly combo.
Every heard of, "right kick, hospital... Left kick, cemetary"?

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