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Old 11-21-2006, 07:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Vera Is OVERRATED

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Brandon "The Truth" Vera

Record 8 - 0 - 0 (Win - Loss - Draw)
Wins 6 (T)KOs (75.00%)
1 Submissions (12.50%)
1 Decisions (12.50%)

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Weight 225lbs (102kg)
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Result Opponent Method Event Title Date Round Time


Win Frank Mir TKO (Strikes) UFC 65-Bad Intentions 11/18/2006 1 1:09
Win Assuerio Silva Submission (Guillotine Choke) UFC 60-Hughes vs. Gracie 5/27/2006 1 2:39
Win Justin Eilers KO (Kick and Knee) UFC 57-Liddell vs Couture 3 2/4/2006 1 1:25
Win Fabiano Scherner TKO (Knees) UFC-Ultimate Fight Night 2 10/3/2005 2 3:22
Win Mike Whitehead TKO (Injury) WEC 13-Heavyweight Explosion 1/22/2005 2 1:12
Win Andre Mussi KO WEC 13-Heavyweight Explosion 1/22/2005 1 0:51
Win Don Richard Decision (Unanimous) NLF-Next Level Fighting 9/13/2003 2 5:00
Win Adam Rivera TKO EEFC 11-Excalibur Fighting 11 7/6/2002 1

I dont care what it says on paper... Hughes on paper should have beaten St.Pierre too, dont mean shit.

I watched his fights, and Im impressed, but whats this crap about him PWNING Tim Sylvia, and comparing him to Lidell??
Same old nuthugging... Im a big St.Pierre fan but you dont see me on forums calling him a legend now or the new face of the ufc like a lot of other people.

I call em like I see em.

Last time I was shocked all to hell was when I saw Bisping walk all over his last 2 opponents. Vitor Belfort back in the day... Royce Gracie winning 4 fights in one night...
The Ultimate Fight Finale when whoever that was (cant remember) knocked out his opponent as he was going down cause of the shot he took to the ribs... all that was impressive.

Brandon Vera? Consistant, well rounded, good takedown Defence... cant seem to take much of a punch though in my opinion.

To say hes good is one thing, but lets stop this NEW FACE of the heavyweight division. If Aleks E comes to the UFC now THAT will be different lol
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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no hughes on paper shoudlent have beaten st. peirre. gsp destroyed fighters that gave hughes a very hard time.

yes vera is over-rated but hes a still a devastating fighter

the only reason in my opinion hes over-rated is because no matter how impressive his wins have been he still hasnt fought anyone of top qaulity yet.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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no hughes on paper shoudlent have beaten st. peirre. gsp destroyed fighters that gave hughes a very hard time.

yes vera is over-rated but hes a still a devastating fighter

the only reason in my opinion hes over-rated is because no matter how impressive his wins have been he still hasnt fought anyone of top qaulity yet.
Well Im a GSP fan and I still say ON PAPER, Hughes looked a sure win... thats besides the point.

I never got a chance to add the fact that Vera has 7 of his 8 wins over cans... Another good point.
But thats not the only reason hes overrated.

I hear people posting that hes the next face of the HW division lol

COME ON MAN is the HW division that fn weak that VERA is the new face of it?

Jesus if thats the case Ill move over to Pride cause thats just pathetic. He has a CHANCE at knocking out Sylvia if he doesnt take any shots beforehand. NOT A CHANCE against Arlovski and forget about Lidell...

If I see one more thread comparing Vera to Lidell Im gonna fn SCREAM
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Mir was supposed to be Vera's big test.

I think Vera vs. AA would be a better fight than Vera vs. Sylvia.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If Aleks E comes to the UFC now THAT will be different lol

your definitely right there
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It is not nuthugging to say Vera will beat Sylvia. Vera has been impressive in all of his UFC fights, Tim has not been impressive in his title defenses, we can agree to disagree if you think a he is a good champion because a "Win is a win". I think it is 10x more outlandish to say Vera has "NOT A CHANCE against AA" C'mon, are you serious? Based on what? AA beat Buentello and then fought a stupid fight against his first loss to Sylvia and was injured by a LEG KICK in his second loss to Tim Sylvia. Come back with a bout where AA showed he can defend strikes and I will listen to an arguement that Vera has no chance against AA.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Overrated??? I want to know what exactly does that mean and when did we start a rating system??? How can someone be overrated that is on a winning streak? Oh, what you're saying is that once he loses you'll say I told you so just like everyone else does by bashing Franklin & Hughes for losing their titles. Please move on....
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Overrated??? I want to know what exactly does that mean and when did we start a rating system??? How can someone be overrated that is on a winning streak? Oh, what you're saying is that once he loses you'll say I told you so just like everyone else does by bashing Franklin & Hughes for losing their titles. Please move on....
If you actually read the original post it gives him credit for what he has done and his skills.

I say hes OVERRATED because of threads all over here and sherdog saying hes the NEXT BIG THING BLAH BLAH BLAH

He hasnt impressed me by beating 7 tin cans and 1 true contender. Thats the same reason people went after me because I hyped up Bisping a bit.

Im not saying hes no good, just saying hes not what everyone makes him out to be.

And if hes the NEW FACE of the HW division?

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I'm a big fan of Vera but the only person he has beaten with any once of credibility is Mir. When Vera fights AA, Monson, or Tim then beats them then you can call him the New Face of the HW division of the UFC, unles Alexs comes over then it's game over for the HW division in the UFC.
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If you actually read the original post it gives him credit for what he has done and his skills.

I say hes OVERRATED because of threads all over here and sherdog saying hes the NEXT BIG THING BLAH BLAH BLAH

He hasnt impressed me by beating 7 tin cans and 1 true contender. Thats the same reason people went after me because I hyped up Bisping a bit.

Im not saying hes no good, just saying hes not what everyone makes him out to be.

And if hes the NEW FACE of the HW division?

SAD
IMO the word "overrated" is simply overrated and mis-used. You have your opinion and you are entitled to it but I just hate the way people over use certain words on this site just because they don't think someone is a good fighter so on and so on....don't take it personally, we just differ in opinions.
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