It does not matter if they get a percentage or not, and by the way I think many of us knew that already but the point being the "PAYOUTS" are not structured right plain & simple. If you want to bring in the PPV % fine, then GSP should have gotten a bigger piece than Hughes and so on...I really did not think the concept of the payout being distorted would be this complex for some of you. This is just like the NFL or NBA rookies who haven't played a single minute but already have guaranteed salaries higher than the veterans, it's absurd and down right wrong...I'm done with my .02 let's move on...
I cant tell that many of you knew about anything.
To say that PPV points dont mean anything shows how ignorent you are.
If you think Matt Hughes only made 75.000 for this fight then you are mistaken. The bottom line is if you can negotiate for PPV percentages you are going to do much better. For Monson to take the small salary is one thing but if he got some PPV points he could have done just as well as Sylvia.The up side for the UFC is the do not have to advertise how much they acctually pay there fighters. I hear people talking about some guys making more money for a fight that was not televised then fights that where televised. Think about what you are saying. Do you really believe that. Anyway the guy that talked that garbage is a goof saying that the pay scales dont make sense. They dont to people like him because he could not negotiate his way out of a paper bag. Thats why this stuff is reserved for laywers and contracts. These fighters are not as dumb as you. They have people looking out for them.
I cant tell that many of you knew about anything.
To say that PPV points dont mean anything shows how ignorent you are.
If you think Matt Hughes only made 75.000 for this fight then you are mistaken. The bottom line is if you can negotiate for PPV percentages you are going to do much better. For Monson to take the small salary is one thing but if he got some PPV points he could have done just as well as Sylvia.The up side for the UFC is the do not have to advertise how much they acctually pay there fighters. I hear people talking about some guys making more money for a fight that was not televised then fights that where televised. Think about what you are saying. Do you really believe that. Anyway the guy that talked that garbage is a goof saying that the pay scales dont make sense. They dont to people like him because he could not negotiate his way out of a paper bag. Thats why this stuff is reserved for laywers and contracts. These fighters are not as dumb as you. They have people looking out for them.
This is a forum, where people ask question and people in the know, like you, can respond. If you have more knowledge, great, but no need to call people dumb.:dunno:
I do find interesting the different infos about the salary brackets, bonuses and PPV points... guess I must be dumb too....
This is a forum, where people ask question and people in the know, like you, can respond. If you have more knowledge, great, but no need to call people dumb.:dunno:
I do find interesting the different infos about the salary brackets, bonuses and PPV points... guess I must be dumb too....
I cant tell that many of you knew about anything.
To say that PPV points dont mean anything shows how ignorent you are.
If you think Matt Hughes only made 75.000 for this fight then you are mistaken. The bottom line is if you can negotiate for PPV percentages you are going to do much better. For Monson to take the small salary is one thing but if he got some PPV points he could have done just as well as Sylvia.The up side for the UFC is the do not have to advertise how much they acctually pay there fighters. I hear people talking about some guys making more money for a fight that was not televised then fights that where televised. Think about what you are saying. Do you really believe that. Anyway the guy that talked that garbage is a goof saying that the pay scales dont make sense. They dont to people like him because he could not negotiate his way out of a paper bag. Thats why this stuff is reserved for laywers and contracts. These fighters are not as dumb as you. They have people looking out for them.
By the way, ignoring your insults let me make something perfectly clear, I have not ever disagreed that certain fighters are smarter at negotiating than others or that the UFC pays out points etc. etc. I have simply been stating the the current "Posted Pay-Out" structure is wrong IMO. Let me give you an "easy" analogy, let's say you buy some tickets for a raffle and you are lucky enough to win the first prize of 2 tickets to Chuck E Cheese and the second place winner got $100,000 dollars in cash and beautiful Royal Carribean Cruise and even better yet the third place guy gets 1 million in cash. Would you still say that was a good structured pay-out? I don't think so. The higher up the fight card the higher the pay and if you're a title contender you should be paid half of what the winner would make...plain & simple
Most of those paychecks arent even worth all the training and the possibility of getting seriously hurt. Why not go fight in Pride and get paid real money.
Geroge St.Pierre received close to $500,000 with the bonuses.
This may have already been said but just so everyone knows, GSP didn't just make 80k or whatever it says on the first page. Article found at mmatoronto
Geroge St.Pierre received close to $500,000 with the bonuses plus a brand new Hummer from the Fertitti bros.
Since beating the american Matt Hughes Saturday night in Sacramento, California, George has been busy answering the phone.
New Ultimate Fighter Champion in the 170lbs division, St.Pierre is more popular than ever.
"My life completly changed suddenly" he said. "I receive congratulations everywhere, I am actually on cloud 9".
The athlete from St.Isidore, on the south shore (of Montreal), won by TKO 1 minute 25 seconds of the second round against Matt Hughes, in front of more than a 15300 crowd at Arco's Arena in Sacramento.
"In the first round, I gave him many kicks to the legs and I saw that it started to hurt him" he explained. "At one point, he ducked his head, and I took that opportunity to hit him in the neck. That is where he crumbled to the mat and that I jumped on him to finish him with hits and elbows."
It was the second time that Hughes (42-5) and St.Pierre faced each other. In 2004 in Atlantic City, Matt Hughes had the win over the Quebecois with an arm-bar.
A Hummer
From that victory, his 14th and only one loss, Geroge St.Pierre received close to $500,000 with the bonuses.
The UFC president Dana White et the millionaire brothers Frank and Lorenza Fertitta also gave him a Hummer truck.
"From now on, I will not have to worry about my finances", declared St.Pierre. "Everything exploded for me. I delivered the best fight of my career against my most formidable opponent. My retirement is now assured."
In Las Vegas in February
Over the next few days, St.Pierre will take the opportinuty to relax a bit before restarting training for his next bout (the first defense of his title), scheduled for February 3rd in Las vegas against Matt Sera from Long Island.
"I dont know him very much, but I know that he specializes on sumitting on the ground", he indicated. "I trust that I will prevail as I have many more skills than he does."
This may have already been said but just so everyone knows, GSP didn't just make 80k or whatever it says on the first page. Article found at mmatoronto
Geroge St.Pierre received close to $500,000 with the bonuses plus a brand new Hummer from the Fertitti bros.
Since beating the american Matt Hughes Saturday night in Sacramento, California, George has been busy answering the phone.
New Ultimate Fighter Champion in the 170lbs division, St.Pierre is more popular than ever.
"My life completly changed suddenly" he said. "I receive congratulations everywhere, I am actually on cloud 9".
The athlete from St.Isidore, on the south shore (of Montreal), won by TKO 1 minute 25 seconds of the second round against Matt Hughes, in front of more than a 15300 crowd at Arco's Arena in Sacramento.
"In the first round, I gave him many kicks to the legs and I saw that it started to hurt him" he explained. "At one point, he ducked his head, and I took that opportunity to hit him in the neck. That is where he crumbled to the mat and that I jumped on him to finish him with hits and elbows."
It was the second time that Hughes (42-5) and St.Pierre faced each other. In 2004 in Atlantic City, Matt Hughes had the win over the Quebecois with an arm-bar.
A Hummer
From that victory, his 14th and only one loss, Geroge St.Pierre received close to $500,000 with the bonuses.
The UFC president Dana White et the millionaire brothers Frank and Lorenza Fertitta also gave him a Hummer truck.
"From now on, I will not have to worry about my finances", declared St.Pierre. "Everything exploded for me. I delivered the best fight of my career against my most formidable opponent. My retirement is now assured."
In Las Vegas in February
Over the next few days, St.Pierre will take the opportinuty to relax a bit before restarting training for his next bout (the first defense of his title), scheduled for February 3rd in Las vegas against Matt Sera from Long Island.
"I dont know him very much, but I know that he specializes on sumitting on the ground", he indicated. "I trust that I will prevail as I have many more skills than he does."
Tim Sylvia 120 000 for the worst fight of the night. I can see how they pay chuck so much though... he is exciting fighter to watch and who doesnt like watchin him knock out. Instead of Tim Sylvia just throwing out jabs the whole fight. I guess Tim does bring in crowds though if you think about it cause everyone watched cause they want to see him lose.
By the way, ignoring your insults let me make something perfectly clear, I have not ever disagreed that certain fighters are smarter at negotiating than others or that the UFC pays out points etc. etc. I have simply been stating the the current "Posted Pay-Out" structure is wrong IMO. Let me give you an "easy" analogy, let's say you buy some tickets for a raffle and you are lucky enough to win the first prize of 2 tickets to Chuck E Cheese and the second place winner got $100,000 dollars in cash and beautiful Royal Carribean Cruise and even better yet the third place guy gets 1 million in cash. Would you still say that was a good structured pay-out? I don't think so. The higher up the fight card the higher the pay and if you're a title contender you should be paid half of what the winner would make...plain & simple
LOL:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: You're right Chuck E Cheese is the bomb
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