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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 11-26-2006, 10:58 AM Thread Starter
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UFC Fighter Wages: Maybe We Are The Problem

I know I'm going to be blasted for this thread but WTF it needs to be said.

From what I've read on this forum and elsewhere an overwhelming majority of people believe that UFC fighters need to be paid more. It has been my contention for a long time that any UFC fighter that is in #1 contender status should be paid a minimum of $100,000 for a title shot. Also, I believe that the minimum fight purse, win or loose, for any fighter appearing on a ppv event should be $15,000. So, why does the UFC have such weak and imbalanced pay-outs? Some might say that the UFC and Zuffa are not managed properly or that they are just plain greedy. I disagree, I think they are not only well managed but Dana White would very much like to pay his fighters more.

A thousand people can find a thousand reasons why this situation is going on.

I believe one reason is that there is major and widespread copyright infringement which siphons many millions of dollars away from the UFC. An obvious example is the posting of UFC fights on YouTube, Google video, and many other web locations. Think about it, if a person knows that a recent UFC event will be posted for anyone to see, free of charge, they might say 'the hell with paying $40 for the ppv or $20 for the DVD, I can get it free on the web'. Granted, the production value is greatly reduced.

I've gotten caught up in this myself. I've watched several fights online, and even attempted to upload fights myself. Fortunately I came to my senses. It should also be made clear that there is a difference between a fight video and a highlight clip.
As I said in the beginning, I know I'm going to be blasted for this. Fine, but the next time someone starts a thread about how ill-paid UFC fighters are and how embarrassed Dana White should be, think about what you or thousands of others are doing that directly affect the wages of hard-working fighters who perform for you.

Let the blasting begin.

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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 11-26-2006, 11:07 AM
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Good point, not the only reason why the UFC pay-out stucture is bad but nonetheless a very good point...

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Interesting Theory! Definitly well thought out! But cannot be the only reason for sad payouts!

You forget that this isn't just some brutal sport where everyones out to kill each other. Its much more like a game of physical chess.-looney liam
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A rational and unselfish idea. I hope it catches on. Easily the best outright post I've seen since I joined.


My other forum is a gun forum, the people there tend to be a lot more polite, perhaps because we all have guns?

Anyhow, it's nice to see a mature post about a relevent topic rather than "Durrr Tim pooped himself, durrr you're a {insert fighter or company here} nuthugger, durrr you're g-a-y wanna fight.... etc"
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Well in another thread i seen how much they make per show.
UFC 60
Known Event Revenue: $26.87 million (includes PPV revenue of $23.97 million; plus live gate of $2,900,090)

Disclosed Fighter Payroll: $740,000 so call that a million.

Add 2 million for pay outs you dont see.

Still 23Million shy. And i know hosting and other costs maybe eat maybe, just maybe 10 Mill, so thats 10Mill gone???

I wouldnt blame online piracy, Its not that big for UFC, and i'd say 70% cant even get PPV any way.

Its from what i hear more down to the fact they have been running at a loss for soooooooo long they need to get their finances in order and get a strong hold on the market before they pay millions every month.
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Well in another thread i seen how much they make per show.
UFC 60
Known Event Revenue: $26.87 million (includes PPV revenue of $23.97 million; plus live gate of $2,900,090)

Disclosed Fighter Payroll: $740,000 so call that a million.

Add 2 million for pay outs you dont see.

Still 23Million shy. And i know hosting and other costs maybe eat maybe, just maybe 10 Mill, so thats 10Mill gone???

I wouldnt blame online piracy, Its not that big for UFC, and i'd say 70% cant even get PPV any way.

Its from what i hear more down to the fact they have been running at a loss for soooooooo long they need to get their finances in order and get a strong hold on the market before they pay millions every month.

well put! I can see how that makes sense- good post!
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Good post, rep for you. I just wish instead of paying one fighter 100,000 and another 8,000, they can take some away from the top paid to even out the rest. Give that 100,000 fighter something like 60,000 that way the underpaid can get a little more. They should atleast get 10-15k
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well maybe if the ufc didnt put out shitty cards half the time and charge 40 bux for them we woudlent have a problem, people would actually buy the ppv.
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Someone said in another thread that the UFC is paying its fighters all it can but I seriously find that hard to believe. The PPV revenues are excessive, and if they can afford a mult-million dollar house and training center in Vegas, they can't be hurting too badly...I seriously think the organization is exploiting the fighters who would fight for next to nothing just to SAY they have UFC on their resume ... fame and rep is sometimes enough to lure in these guys ... so the execs figure, what the hell, why pay if we don't have to? That's my theory anyway ...
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Yeah, like I would actually buy a 40 dollar ppv or buy a 20 dollar dvd. One of the misconceptions about piracy is that everybody that does it would be willing to pay for what they took otherwise. The record industry also counts piracy as "lost" revenue when it is mostly revenue that they never would have had in the first place anyways. My audio library is chock full of songs that I like a bit but would never actually pay for. If you are and artist or a MMA fighter, wouldn't you rather have some popularity and name recognition from people that otherwise would not be contributing financially?

If anything, pirated videos help the UFC to gain some popularity. Because more people get to see them and get interested.

I rent UFC and pride videos from netflix (and burn them ) and I go to the bar to watch ppvs. That is about all the money that the UFC can expect out of me unless I am ever fortunate enough to go to a live event.
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