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Old 11-28-2006, 01:25 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Maybe, hes pretty old no one else to fight as well. Maybe he goes to another promotion after? Fight Frank Shamrock in Strikeforce free or charge .
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Old 11-28-2006, 07:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I have heard people speak negatively of fighters who they feel don’t retire “when they should” but when is that? If I’m a fighter with a true passion for the sport and a drive to compete I’m not going out until my competition can put me out…and when do you decide that? After one loss? Two? Three? Only a fighter knows when it’s his/her time to hang up the gloves...us spectators might view it as sad or a shame that they keep fighting after their prime but we should remember that this is also their job. This is what puts food on their families table and if they want to keep going I say go ahead if there is interest in their fights.

Don’t you also think it’s incredibly noble and shows great sportsmanship and class for a fighter nearing the end of his career to give the up and comer a shot at a legend? Do you really respect a fighter who goes out on top? I used to be a huge boxing fan and I know how most of us feel about Lennox Lewis retiring in his prime without giving deserving fighters a chance. Most think he’s a coward punkassmotherfcuker…he’ll never go down in history with the great champions like Ali, Frazer, Foreman, Leonard etc.

I have nothing but respect for the guys who have to be dragged out of the sport kicking and screaming.

hum, bring food on the table? we arent in 1993 anymore, legends and champions get paid enough to fight only once or twice a year, and thats without counting endorsements. GSP was already close to a millionaire before his rematch with hughes, and thats from his agent.

Dont get the money argument in to justify them continuing to fight. Its not their job anymore after such a long carreer, its something they like to do. For the examples i mentionned(Royce and Ken), Royce is living well off his seminars only, he didnt need to money, he just wanted it, theres a big difference. As for Ken, i personally think hes just plain too stupid to realise hes done. He didnt need the money, hes had a long carreer already, and his latest paychecks werent that huge either.

Of course no1 can predict the "right" time to end ur career, but any1 knows when its "about" the right time. U bring up Lennox Lewis... how old was that guy when he retired? Not to mention how long and how great he was a champ if u compare to Ali, Foreman etc. Of course hes never going to be with them, but its not only cuz he retired "early".

Chuck doesnt need money, his Xcience commercials is already enough. If he keeps fights, its because he still wants to be the best and he still enjoys doing so.
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Old 11-28-2006, 07:13 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Thank you. I wanted to say something about that but you were good enough to reply.

These be all end all statements people make are pretty sad =/
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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hum, bring food on the table? we aren't in 1993 anymore, legends and champions get paid enough to fight only once or twice a year, and that's without counting endorsements. GSP was already close to a millionaire before his rematch with hughes, and thats from his agent.

Don't get the money argument in to justify them continuing to fight. Its not their job anymore after such a long career, its something they like to do. For the examples i mentioned(Royce and Ken), Royce is living well off his seminars only, he didn't need to money, he just wanted it, there's a big difference. As for Ken, i personally think hes just plain too stupid to realise hes done. He didn't need the money, hes had a long career already, and his latest paychecks weren't that huge either.

Of course no1 can predict the "right" time to end ur career, but any1 knows when its "about" the right time. U bring up Lennox Lewis... how old was that guy when he retired? Not to mention how long and how great he was a champ if u compare to Ali, Foreman etc. Of course hes never going to be with them, but its not only cuz he retired "early".

Chuck doesnt need money, his Xcience commercials is already enough. If he keeps fights, its because he still wants to be the best and he still enjoys doing so.
The "food on the table" comment was a metaphor you imbecile...I was saying that this is how they earn their living, how they pay for their retirement or for their children to go to college and doofus fans have no business thinking they no when a fighter should hang up the gloves. I also went on to say that I believe that in the case of Ken and Royce the money wasn't the motivating factor...maybe you need to go back to wherever you bought your copy of hooked on phonics and demand a refund because you cant read worth shit.

Oh, and anyone who thinks Lennox Lewis is anything but a cowardly embarrassment to the great fighters who have been heavyweight champions is someone who is not intelligent enough to debate me.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:47 AM   #25 (permalink)
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The "food on the table" comment was a metaphor you imbecile...I was saying that this is how they earn their living, how they pay for their retirement or for their children to go to college and doofus fans have no business thinking they no when a fighter should hang up the gloves. I also went on to say that I believe that in the case of Ken and Royce the money wasn't the motivating factor...maybe you need to go back to wherever you bought your copy of hooked on phonics and demand a refund because you cant read worth shit.

Oh, and anyone who thinks Lennox Lewis is anything but a cowardly embarrassment to the great fighters who have been heavyweight champions is someone who is not intelligent enough to debate me.
Hey Bungle dude....relax man...we are all here because we care and love MMA...so tone done the imbecile and idiots comments please...I know you are a veteran of the forum since October....but still....chill....
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:17 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I dunno...Randy was still a monster at 40, and Chuck has gotten better, instead of worse in the last couple of years. I think he's got a good few fights left in him yet, if he wants.
Not that I want to see he degrade his own legacy, a la Ken Shamrock, but I'm sure a competitive guy like Chuck would always wonder how much longer he could have hung.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:21 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I dunno...Randy was still a monster at 40, and Chuck has gotten better, instead of worse in the last couple of years. I think he's got a good few fights left in him yet, if he wants.
Not that I want to see he degrade his own legacy, a la Ken Shamrock, but I'm sure a competitive guy like Chuck would always wonder how much longer he could have hung.
Yep, Your are right....Chuck doesn't know how old he is and doesn't need to be reminded...he will fight and win untill proven otherwise....anyway thats the way I see it...thats the way I am...
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:38 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Mr. Bungle your negativety adds nothing to this forum. Everyone here has as much right to express thier opinion as you do. If you can't intelligently argue without insulting people you shouldn't be on this forum. This is for discusion, not arguments. And it shows your lack of maturity that you must stoop to that level. Insults only make you sound ignorant and a poor debater. I agree with you on most of your points but your negative attitude brings down the credibility of your argument.

Chuck will be staying around for a little while. Tito's gonna be done before Chuck is. He can't compete with today's level of fighters.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:54 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Oh, and anyone who thinks Lennox Lewis is anything but a cowardly embarrassment to the great fighters who have been heavyweight champions is someone who is not intelligent enough to debate me.
"...not intelligent enough to debate with me." And just who the hell are you?
Give me a break.
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:20 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Sorry I didn't know that you guys were so sensitive and tender. I give you all my word that I will do my best to be kinder and gentler from this day forward. Now can we please hug and make up...ugh!

Christ guys, I'm only kidding when I call people imbeciles or question their reading ability and IQ. It's all in good fun and I can honestly say that there is no hostility or malice intended.
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