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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 06-17-2009, 11:14 PM Thread Starter
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I'm sure there has been a thread on this sometime before, but I can't find one.

I believe weigh ins should take place an hour before the fight.

If a fighter is supposed to weigh 155 pounds, then when they fight, they should damn well weigh 155 pounds. It's especially unfair that these big guys can lose so much weight and fight guys so much smaller than them because they have a whole day to rehydrate and gain back lost weight.

Also, guys would be much more hesitant to cut excess weight because they would be more worried about their performance, so it would be better and healthier for the fighters.

It's not like we are gonna lose great bouts if the heavier people in a weight class move up. GSP fighting in middle weight would be great. Silva in LHW???



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Discuss the pro's and cons of UFC weight cutting policies.

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I'm sure there has been a thread on this sometime before, but I can't find one.

I believe weigh ins should take place an hour before the fight.

If a fighter is supposed to weigh 155 pounds, then when they fight, they should damn well weigh 155 pounds. It's especially unfair that these big guys can lose so much weight and fight guys so much smaller than them because they have a whole day to rehydrate and gain back lost weight.
Also, guys would be much more hesitant to cut excess weight because they would be more worried about their performance, so it would be better and healthier for the fighters.

It's not like we are gonna lose great bouts if the heavier people in a weight class move up. GSP fighting in middle weight would be great. Silva in LHW???



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Discuss the pro's and cons of UFC weight cutting policies.
That means you never had a real fight. Do you know how hard cutting weight is for a fight? There are plently of people (I'm not even going to address the people "you deal with")
You have no idea, i cut down from 290 to 185....that's hard work, yes I k now it's not healthy. People are going to say what they want, but believe me, you have no idea what cutting weight is.



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I was going to make a thread like this. I would like to see fighters fighting and weighing in at their natural weight, this would likely result in all the current roster simply moving up a division though. Except Thiago Alves, he'd have to move to 205 or some shiz.
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There are also the health risks of having a fighter going into the cage with no adequate time to rehydrate and regain strength.

No commission would allow a fighter in the cage if there is a risk of serious or permanent illness from being forced to fight literally an hour after sucking the water out of their body.

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what do you do to cut weight..like the fighters..what type of things esactly..im just curious
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what do you do to cut weight..like the fighters..what type of things esactly..im just curious
Sorry who are you asking here?

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i cut down from 290 to 185....that's hard work, yes I k now it's not healthy. People are going to say what they want, but believe me, you have no idea what cutting weight is.
unless your talking about losing mainly fat then thats impossible.


fighters like thiago alves walk into a fight around 2 weight classes higher than the one they're fighting in. if you match a 175 lb fighter against a 190lb fighter both of similar skill the heavier guy will almost always win.

m1 world challange had fighters coming in at their actual weight. before each fight the fighters would usually weigh much below their weight class limit. gegard mousasi for example was a middleweight at the time (after cutting) but he fought lhw at 198 lbs. i'm not sure exactly when they weighed their fighters but it was a good system, and noone really had a size advantage in the match ups.

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I'm completely happy with the way it is.

Basically, the only way for what your saying to happen is that everyone will fight at different weight classes.

Everyone is in the same boat at the moment, you know what the score is when your in a weight class. If you walk around at 185 and your fighting a guy that walks around at 205 and he cuts, then why not cut to 170 rather than fighting at a weight you can just about hold.

The only problem with the way it is at the moment is the HW division. the 285/290 guys fighting 220 guys. But the solution to that is not have a ridiculously large weight division. A 60lb division is madness in my eyes.

I have no problem with the way it is, everybody fights at a higher weight than they weigh it at.

If this was to take place, people WOULDN'T go up a weight class, they would still have to cut, and then we have loads of fighters fighting dehydrated and gassing.

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The way I see it is that if you're a big guy and you can get down to a lower weight then good on you. No doubt people like Thiago Alves and GSP have an advantage but to me it seems like a bit of an art. If you are prepared to do it and you can get away with it then well done. To me it's a skill in the same way fighting technique is.

And like people have said, if a fighter is always being outsized then just move down a weight class. I dont really see the current system as being flawed. If you think about the very basic idea of a fight, how often are the guys actually going to weigh exactly the same. Someone is always going to have a natural advantage. That's life.

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And like people have said, if a fighter is always being outsized then just move down a weight class. I dont really see the current system as being flawed. If you think about the very basic idea of a fight, how often are the guys actually going to weigh exactly the same. Someone is always going to have a natural advantage. That's life.
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