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Old 11-29-2006, 11:02 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Nope. I don't think that he'll ever get a title shot. He's lost to to many good fighters and there are to many better fighters in his way. Personally I think he's a lot of hype. He has great Jiu Jitsu but he loves to try to box. He can't box for crap (recalls the Muscleshark fight were he was leaning way the hell over and throwing crappy weak punches).
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think it's important to note that all of Diaz's losses in the UFC are by decision... meaning nobody has ever knocked him out or submitted him. That says a lot to me. Even out of the guys that beat him (Sanchez - couldn't groudn and pound him, Riggs couldn't finish him, Sherk couldn't finish him, etc.)
thats what i was saying. the losses he has were wars, and they were by decision. he is a tuff fighter, he brings it everytime. if he wins his next couple fights he should get a shot. i dont think he will be champ anytime soon, if ever, i just think he deserves a shot, the ufc kind of uses him as a stepping stone. they know if they put him in there with a good fighter its going to be a good fight. and if they put him in there with a decent fighter he will finish them. if he loses its a hard fought fight, and the other guy looks good for winning it. i guess i just feel like they should cut him a break since they just use him to pump up other guys.
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:00 PM   #23 (permalink)
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no diaz isn't good enough and prolly never will be
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:20 PM   #24 (permalink)
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no Diaz loses to anyone thats decent. he doesnt deserve a shot. couldnt even beat riggs and he got dominated by hughs. diaz should fight KOS
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:54 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Diaz is one of my favourite fighters but i dont think he deservers a title shot till he beats some real contenders like say hughes or penn or even diego.I definetly think the ufc should keep him around though every time he fights its one of the most exciting fights of the night.
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Old 11-30-2006, 09:30 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Diaz is awesome. People say they don't like him because of his attitude cracks me up. He keeps it real and doesn't put on some fake act, he lets his true emotions show. As far as him getting a title shot..........not yet. Although he should for sure. He lost a decision to Riggs who also lost a decision to Hughes. Nobody can knock the guy out. Somebody said he's past his prime He's a young guy and has much to learn still. Stop hating everybody this thread is about wether or not he should get a title shot not if you like him or dislike him.
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Nice favorite fighter list. Have you just started watching the UFC?

Seems like most of you Anti Diaz people are newcomers. The kid's been around, and been beating up who's who's in their prime. He had a slump... but he's on the come up. Title shot? Probably not, but I don't doubt that he runs through the next 3 fights in front of him on his way there. The kid's ground game and ability to reverse things is amazing. And when did he fight Matt Hughes and quote:

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I'm pretty sure they never fought... Diaz should fight Kos!? He's ranked higher than Kos on most MMA sites.

Koscheck's UFC fights:

Win Jonathan Goulet Submission UFC® Fight Night™ 6 08/17/2006 1 4:10
Win Dave Menne Unanimous Decision UFC® Fight Night™ 5 06/28/2006 3 0:00
Win Ansar Chalangov Submission UFC® Fight Night™ 4 04/06/2006 1 3:29
Loss Drew Fickett Submission UFC® Fight Night™ 2 10/03/2005 3 4:38
Win Pete Spratt Submission UFC® Fight Night™ 1 08/06/2005 1 1:53
Win Chris Sanford Knock Out Ultimate Fighter I Finale 04/09/2005 1 4:00

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Win Gleison Tibau Stoppage (Referee) UFC® 65: BAD INTENTIONS 11/18/2006 2 2:27
Win Josh Neer Submission UFC 62: LIDDELL VS. SOBRAL 08/26/2006 3 1:42
Loss Sean Sherk Unanimous Decision UFC 59: Reality Check 04/15/2006 3 15:00
Loss Joe Riggs Unanimous Decision UFC 57: Liddell vs Couture 3 02/04/2006 3 5:00
Loss Diego Sanchez Unanimous Decision The Ultimate Fighter® 2 Finale 09/05/2005 3 5:00
Win Koji Oishi Knock Out UFC 53: Heavy Hitters 06/04/2005 1 1:24
Win Drew Fickett Technical Knock Out UFC 51: Super Saturday 02/05/2005 1 4:40
Loss Karo Parisyan Split Decision UFC 49: Unfinished Business 08/21/2004 3 5:00
Win Robbie Lawler Knock Out UFC 47: IT`S ON 04/02/2004 2 1:31
Win Jeremy Jackson Submission UFC 44: Undisputed 09/26/2003 2 2:04


He's lost by decision to Sanchez, Riggs, Sherk, Karo (by split D) - all guys who Koscheck hasn't fought, and probably can't beat (except Diego, we know that.) Not to mention Diaz has KO victories. And there's a commonality, Drew Fickett. Which Koscheck lost to, and Diaz TKO'D in the first round.

I don't want to be a **** but you guys need to know more than just TUF to say who is better than who. I'm sick of people coming on here posting abotu fighters and saying "no he sux, Rory Singer = da bomb!"
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NO!!!

How can we think about giving Diaz a title shot when 3 of the good fighters he has fought have destroyed. Sanchez is clearly next in line, and they aren't going to throw Nick in there unless he wins 3 more fights, and some of them have to be against top fighters.

If Diaz fights someone who's had a good look at a title or actually held it, like BJ or Hughes, he'll get destroyed.

We saw what happened to Riggs at his title shot, and Joe pretty much dominated Nick when they fought. As did Sherk, who is a beast, but got beaten easily by GSP.

All three of the top welterweights are too good for Diaz. GSP, Hughes and BJ will smash him, as did Diego and Karo who, in my opinion, are closer to a title shot than Nick Diaz.


My rankings for UFC Welterweights:
Georges St Pierre
Matt Hughes (#1 Contender)
BJ Penn (#3 Contender)
Diego Sanchez (#2 Contender)
Karo Parysian (#4 Contender)
Joe Riggs (#5 Contender)

All of these guys are better than Diaz, and most of them have beaten him. I know that the contenders aren't entirely in order, that's intentional, because that's how I see the pecking order for the shot at GSP.
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Old 11-30-2006, 10:56 AM   #29 (permalink)
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How can we think about giving Diaz a title shot when 3 of the good fighters he has fought have destroyed. Sanchez is clearly next in line, and they aren't going to throw Nick in there unless he wins 3 more fights, and some of them have to be against top fighters.

If Diaz fights someone who's had a good look at a title or actually held it, like BJ or Hughes, he'll get destroyed.

We saw what happened to Riggs at his title shot, and Joe pretty much dominated Nick when they fought. As did Sherk, who is a beast, but got beaten easily by GSP.

All three of the top welterweights are too good for Diaz. GSP, Hughes and BJ will smash him, as did Diego and Karo who, in my opinion, are closer to a title shot than Nick Diaz.


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Georges St Pierre
Matt Hughes (#1 Contender)
BJ Penn (#3 Contender)
Diego Sanchez (#2 Contender)
Karo Parysian (#4 Contender)
Joe Riggs (#5 Contender)

All of these guys are better than Diaz, and most of them have beaten him. I know that the contenders aren't entirely in order, that's intentional, because that's how I see the pecking order for the shot at GSP.
imo the riggs and karo fight were really close. i think diego was a clear winner, i was actually cheering for diego in that fight because i thought it was arrogant the way nick was talking about him. saying that diego wasnt on his level. i do think that nick probably took diego lightly and might be able to beat him in a re-match. the bottom line is he has fought alot of the better guys in the division. and the fights he lost he wasnt stopped. if he wins his next couple of fights then i think he deserves a shot. there is a clear line ahead of him. diego, hughes for sure. i think bj needs to beat matt before he gets another shot at gsp. id like to see nick fight chris lytle. so i guess all im saying is, we know that gsp fights serra next. then most likely hughes. so unfortunantly for diego he has to wait. they cant have bj sitting around while all this is going on so i think what would make the most sense is to have diego fight bj. im betting gsp wins the rubbermatch with hughes, so the winner of penn/sanchez gets the title shot, and the loser fights hughes. after all those fights someone else is going to have to be next in line and imo it should be nick. maybe he'll get a chance to fight fitch during all that and if he wins he definetly deserves a shot.
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Old 11-30-2006, 12:48 PM   #30 (permalink)
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He's lost by decision to Sanchez, Riggs, Sherk, Karo (by split D) - all guys who Koscheck hasn't fought, and probably can't beat (except Diego, we know that.) Not to mention Diaz has KO victories. And there's a commonality, Drew Fickett. Which Koscheck lost to, and Diaz TKO'D in the first round.

I don't want to be a **** but you guys need to know more than just TUF to say who is better than who. I'm sick of people coming on here posting abotu fighters and saying "no he sux, Rory Singer = da bomb!"
lol I said he should fight KOS cause I think that it would be a pretty good fight. And by saying that Kos hasnt fought any of those guys is true because UFC has not really gave him any big names to fight besides Fickett which he did lose. But giving a list of guys that beat Diaz and saying he is better than KOS just because he fought them is stupid. If he beat even one of them I would agree, but just by fighting good fighters doesnt make you good if you lose. Even If they were decisions, I never thought Diaz won any of those fights. Congrats to him for not getting finished, but a loss is a loss.
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