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Old 12-01-2006, 11:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ha! That's funny! You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. A unanimous decision? You gotta be kidding! Please tell me what GSP did to win that fight cuz I just can't figure it out! He won the last round but BJ won the first 2 pretty clearly in my eyes. GSP had 2 takedowns in the 2nd round but he did absolutely not a god damn thing not anything at all and Penn got right back up. All GSP did really was press BJ up against the fence and rest his head on his shoulder. Even in the 2nd round BJ was still landing just about every punch he threw and GSP's only points came from 4 takedowns with no action whatsoever on GSPs part and pressing BJ up against the fence and still doing absolutely nothing. That last takedown of the fight GSP got his face beat in from the bottom! BJ did more damage from the bottom than GSP could do from the top. Why is it that GSP's face continually got worse througout the entire fight but yet BJ's stayed almost completely clean and unscathed?? I'll tell you why, it's because GSP was getting the shit beat out of him nearly every minute of that fight. BJ won that fight and I will argue that forever I don't care what anyone says there was no way GSP was the better fighter that night no way in hell.
Fights are not measured on damage, some people damage really easy compared to others. Its rediculous to judge a fight based on blood alone. The second round was GSP's as much as the first round was Penn's. Both were close, but Penn was the aggressor in the first, and GSP was so in the second. Being the controlling, dominant fighter will earn you points. That is why GSP won the second round; he was landing the same number of shots as Penn, but the difference was that he was trying to hit him, Penn was avoiding him, and at the end of the second he was tired and that should make it clear to any MMA fan who the second round belonged to. The third round was GSP's by the same close margin as the other rounds, he only got it by being more dominant, and controlling space in the octagon better.
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:08 AM   #12 (permalink)
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On his own website it says he is staying in the WW division
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Old 12-02-2006, 03:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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You could pound on Penn's face for an hour and it wouldn't mark up that badly.
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Fights are not measured on damage, some people damage really easy compared to others. Its rediculous to judge a fight based on blood alone. The second round was GSP's as much as the first round was Penn's. Both were close, but Penn was the aggressor in the first, and GSP was so in the second. Being the controlling, dominant fighter will earn you points. That is why GSP won the second round; he was landing the same number of shots as Penn, but the difference was that he was trying to hit him, Penn was avoiding him, and at the end of the second he was tired and that should make it clear to any MMA fan who the second round belonged to. The third round was GSP's by the same close margin as the other rounds, he only got it by being more dominant, and controlling space in the octagon better.

Oh give it up, he won because he got take downs, thats it
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I think GSP did a better job of being aggressive and controlling the fight at the very end, and that's what took it. He was advancing on Penn the entire round, with takedowns as well as control. That definitely beats what Penn did in the third round, which was next to nothing.
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Old 12-02-2006, 04:48 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I think GSP did a better job of being aggressive and controlling the fight at the very end, and that's what took it. He was advancing on Penn the entire round, with takedowns as well as control. That definitely beats what Penn did in the third round, which was next to nothing.

I dont know what you call control.
but i dont considering trying and failing control.
he got two takedowns, thats it.
he did nothing with them, and Bj got up both times.
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Old 12-02-2006, 04:48 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Definitly a super close fight. I have to admit as a St. Pierre fan, at the end of that fight I ws kind of worried that Penn may have won it. The first round obviously belonged to BJ. To say Georges face got progressivley worse throughout the fight though...I don't know about that. The only damaging blows from Penn seemed to come in the first round. However, after round one the fight was so close. Almost could have gone either way if I remember correctly.
Anyway, after watching two of the greatest MMA fighters in the world fight to a decision, there's only one word that would solve any dispute in regards to the outcome of that fight...REMATCH.
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Old 12-02-2006, 07:22 AM   #18 (permalink)
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It did get progressively worse if you watch carefully. It got extrememly bad in the last minute of the 3rd round when GSP took him down and got stuck in a wierd submission and was getting his face beat like a red headed stepchild, you could see blood just pouring out with every hit but he escaped and the horn sounded shortly after.

Atom is right, GSP won with takedowns but BJ was doing more damage from the bottom than GSP was from the top. GSP didn't do really anything offensive except a couple nice kicks and the takedowns with nothing afterwards but a breather. Also he pressed Penn up against the fence for a long time but he never did much other than rest his head on Penn's shoulder.

I don't think BJ won because he was unscathed and GSP was visibly beaten...I say he won because he won.
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It did get progressively worse if you watch carefully. It got extrememly bad in the last minute of the 3rd round when GSP took him down and got stuck in a wierd submission and was getting his face beat like a red headed stepchild, you could see blood just pouring out with every hit but he escaped and the horn sounded shortly after.

Atom is right, GSP won with takedowns but BJ was doing more damage from the bottom than GSP was from the top. GSP didn't do really anything offensive except a couple nice kicks and the takedowns with nothing afterwards but a breather. Also he pressed Penn up against the fence for a long time but he never did much other than rest his head on Penn's shoulder.

I don't think BJ won because he was unscathed and GSP was visibly beaten...I say he won because he won.

Yeah exactly.
I take nothing from GSP, he's a warrior. But he did nothing with his takedowns in that fight. All he did was sit on them , Bj got up and then he took him down again.
The way I see it is at least Bj Penn was moving and striking and on his back trying to do things.
I have said and will always say, I dont think Takedowns should be worth as many points as they are.
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I definitely think that BJ won that fight, but that's because BJ is like a tank. He can eat anything and he just keeps moving forward, that's what he's built his career on. He can take punishment.

I want to see GSP/Penn. It would be an all out war at five rounds, and I have no idea which way it would go, and I really don't care. Hughes is the only person to stop BJ, and I think Penn could have kept going for a little while longer.

As for GSP, I don't think that GSP can KO BJ standing up. Except for Penn and the first fight against Hughes, he's dominated every fight that he's been in. Even his decisions over Karo and Jason Miller were decisive.

Before BJ backs down he should take on GSP. I would pay for that fight, and I think Dana White knows how many people would. I think it will happen.
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