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ChristianS24 · 06-22-2009, 11:35 AM

Wow would someone please explain to me why you thnk lesnar has come a long way? Who cares if it's 18 months and he's only fought 2 other people! He hasn't changed a bit in any of those fights. He still doesn't know anything about jui jitsu and he still isn't an mma fighter in my opinion. So please give me a reason that you think he's improved cuz he hasn't

cdtcpl · 06-22-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristianS24

Wow would someone please explain to me why you thnk lesnar has come a long way? Who cares if it's 18 months and he's only fought 2 other people! He hasn't changed a bit in any of those fights. He still doesn't know anything about jui jitsu and he still isn't an mma fighter in my opinion. So please give me a reason that you think he's improved cuz he hasn't

So let me get this straight, you think he hasn't been training BJJ at all? The answer is he trained for MMA before entering the ring the first time, let alone the cage. He has a BJJ teacher who has stated that he has picked up submission defense very quickly and is improving at an impressive rate. Now while this could all be talk, anyone with a wrestling background should be able to use it to help with BJJ. Just as Clay Guida does, you don't have to be able to pull off subs, just keep from getting subb'ed.

Sorry that you don't think he is an MMA fighter, but the truth is that he is. Right now he is getting paid to fight, are you? I know I'm not. Whether he got the championship fight sooner than everyone thought he should or not, who would turn down the chance?

Lesnar has come along way, and this fight will tell us how far he has come on that journey. Anyone, especially Mir, who underestimates him is going to regret it fairly quickly.

Danm2501 · 06-22-2009, 01:47 PM

Lesnar has definitely improved, and I'm sure we'll see further improvement in this fight. If he has worked hard on his Sub defence, which I'm sure he will have, then there's every chance that Brock could pull off a win. He definitely had Mir rocked in their first fight. Sure on paper it looked like an easy win for Mir, finishing it in under 90 seconds, but Brock took him down twice and was laying into him with some heavy ground and pound. It was his inexperience and lack of BJJ skills, more specifically sub defence that let him down, and led him to fall into Mir's very dangerous guard. I can't see him doing the same thing again. If he can neutralise Mir's subs he could definitely pull off a victory. Saying that though, I'm still backing Mir to get a submission victory in the 2nd.

ChristianS24, Lesnar's not had 3 fights, he's had 4, and he has fought someone other than Couture since the first Mir fight. He fought Heath Herring at UFC 87 an won by Unanimous decision.

Grotty · 06-22-2009, 02:36 PM

Mir does not respond well to pressure fighters its as simple as that, Lesnar has a huge way to go before he is a finished product but again he isnt invulnerable as proven and certainly if the initial storm can be weathered then his opponents certainly stand a higher chance of victory but Mir isnt known for cardio. Lesnar certainly would be open to subs and Mir has a very active guard soooooooo what narrows it down in my opinion?
Well Mir has a brilliant sub game without a doubt plus 1 point.
Lesnar has power +1
Mir Experience +1
Lesnar Wrestling +1
Cardio... Lesnar takes this point +1
Can Lesnar take punishment? likely
Can Mir? well he has folded in the past
My heart says Mir but the head lol says Lesnar through sheer brutal attack 1st round.

**LjStronge** · 06-23-2009, 07:20 AM

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I CANT WAIT!!! Crazy Card. I am still up looking for Brock Lesnar shirt to wear on ebay. So far I am on for this one http://cgi.ebay.com/Brock-Lesnar-Cre...3%3A1|294%3A50

Loooking goodd...

you ARE joking right?

lol, good one

**SuicideJohnson** · 06-23-2009, 12:34 PM

This event is rediculously close. It's sneeking up so fast I can't wait. I don't even want to have any picks on that night, I just want to be able to enjoy the show instead of be half bummed if my guys lose.

AHH! I forgot Coleman was fighting. This is going to have a little bit of everything.

To DanPonjican below me: There are more man! the next 3 are epic too.

DanPonjican · 06-23-2009, 12:47 PM

Can't wait! Would love to see more cards of this caliber.

EddieMMA · 07-03-2009, 06:14 PM

I got into a pretty big argument earlier today regard the most hyped fight of Ufc 100. Just curious to what fight you all are looking most forward too? Oh and I am a newby to this forum but not MMA. Long time fan!

dantheman88 · 07-04-2009, 12:13 AM

brock's gonna need to finish it within 3 rounds, his endurance isn't there yet. The longer the fight goes, the more it favors Mir, brock hits hard, and is a better wrestler,(former NCAA champion) but needs to finish it early.