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Maybe I'm crazy, but I think Lesnar's best chance of winning the fight is in the standup. Mir's ground game is just too versatile and dangerous for Lesnar in my opinion.
Lesnar should use his incredible reach to try and keep Mir at length until he has him hurt and/or tired. Then he might be okay going to the ground to try and finish Mir off.
Should be an interesting match to say the least...
I agree. I think Brock is slowly going to morph into the new Chuck Liddell. Sprawl & Brawl FTW!
1st part: I think his best chance would be to hold Frank down between his knees and smack him with the other hand. Seems to be his talented signatue.
2nd part: I don't think Brock can stand and trade that long. Mir will avoid him until Lesnar gasses in like 30 seconds and drops his hands.
I still haven't decided who I'm taking in this fight. But I have a hunch that Lesnar will not want to stay on the ground for any length of time with Mir unless he's hurt, tired, or both, or unless he can pass Mir's guard relatively quickly.
Lesnar's standup surprised me a little against Couture. While Randy's never had KO power, he has solid technique with his footwork and head movement. Lesnar handled it pretty well and ended up landing the big right hand that hurt Randy pretty bad.
His trainers, guys he's worked with, and NFL coach called him a "cardio freak", he wrestled some long matches in college, went 3 rounds with Herring, and looked like he could have gone 3 more no problem, and he wrestled a couple of 60 minute matches in the WWE (yeah I know it's fake, but it still takes cardio).
Did you watch any of his countdown specials? The guy doesn't even own a computer and lives in the middle of the nowhere. All he does is train.
While Lesnar is out running up hills, Mir is probably hitting the strip in Vegas.
His trainers, guys he's worked with, and NFL coach called him a "cardio freak", he wrestled some long matches in college, went 3 rounds with Herring, and looked like he could have gone 3 more no problem, and he wrestled a couple of 60 minute matches in the WWE (yeah I know it's fake, but it still takes cardio).
Did you watch any of his countdown specials? The guy doesn't even own a computer and lives in the middle of the nowhere. All he does is train.
While Lesnar is out running up hills, Mir is probably hitting the strip in Vegas.
haha. okay. I haven't seen any of the countdown specials. I'd like to if you have a link.
But muscle requires a lot of oxygen to keep going. Especially the thick and heavy kind slathered all over Lesnar.
Maybe things've changed. Maybe he's stepped up his training. But I still see Mir lasting longer than Lesnar in this fight.
haha. okay. I haven't seen any of the countdown specials. I'd like to if you have a link.
But muscle requires a lot of oxygen to keep going. Especially the thick and heavy kind slathered all over Lesnar.
Maybe things've changed. Maybe he's stepped up his training. But I still see Mir lasting longer than Lesnar in this fight.
This will be one of the issues hotly debated as we get closer to the fight.
My observation is that I was surprised how quickly Lesnar seemed to gas in his fight against Couture. At the end of the first round, he appeared to be breathing pretty hard. However, he had enough to come out in the 2nd round and get the TKO.
On the other hand, Mir's gas tank looked great against Big Nog. Even into the 2nd round, he looked relatively fresh and his technique remained crisp.
In recent years, Mir's cardio has been questioned and rightfully so. But if he's turned the proverbial corner in his training, we might be looking at a rejuvenated Frank Mir who could make for a very difficult night against any HW in the world.
This will be one of the issues hotly debated as we get closer to the fight.
My observation is that I was surprised how quickly Lesnar seemed to gas in his fight against Couture. At the end of the first round, he appeared to be breathing pretty hard. However, he had enough to come out in the 2nd round and get the TKO.
I was surprised by that too. But even though he was breathing hard he never actually slowed down. Couple of things to consider.
1. While to your average fan, it wasn't a very fast paced round, but anyone who has ever wrestled could see that there was a lot of energy spent by both men in that round. Randy is know for great cardio too, and he was breathing just as hard. Mir won't be able to push Brock the way Randy was, that's only something he will face from another world class wrestle, which there aren't any other in the HW division at this time. And no Shane Carwin isn't a world class wrestler.
2. This is going to sound like making excuses for one of my boys, but I'm gonna throw it out there as a possiblity. Did Brock have some kind of cold. Between the 1st and 2nd rounds it sounded like he had a lot of mucus in his lungs/throat when he was breathing.
I was surprised by that too. But even though he was breathing hard he never actually slowed down. Couple of things to consider.
1. While to your average fan, it wasn't a very fast paced round, but anyone who has ever wrestled could see that there was a lot of energy spent by both men in that round. Randy is know for great cardio too, and he was breathing just as hard. Mir won't be able to push Brock the way Randy was, that's only something he will face from another world class wrestle, which there aren't any other in the HW division at this time. And no Shane Carwin isn't a world class wrestler.
I agree. If I remember a large part of that first round was spent with Randy trying to take Brock down against the fence. It doesn't look like much but it takes a lot of upper body strength and a serious toll on your cardio trying to fend off those take downs from a man that is known for his great Greco Roman wrestling. I don't think Lesnar's cardio will be an issue against Mir unless it gets into the late 4rth or 5th rounds. Even then I'd say he is still going to be in better shape than Mir at that point.
OMG another Brock thread
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